Author Topic: Hanoi Jane movie (Read 4201 times)

Mr Big · « **Reply #90 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:06:20 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
Mr. Big blames Vietnam on Commies.

Shuckins blames Vietnam on Hippies.

I ....bla bla bla

I Blame the Vietnam war on the poeple who started it. And that's more complicated than most little brains can comprehend.

Mr Big · « **Reply #91 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:08:05 AM »

Seriously Nash, you need to get a grip on your life.

Nash · « **Reply #92 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:12:27 AM »

My grip is just.... well, it's never been better.

It's a fantastic grip. And several professional athletes are now wearing our "Fantastic Grip" logo on their ballcaps.

(piss off, git.)

Shuckins · « **Reply #93 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:14:11 AM »

Well Nash...I've said a lot of things in my posts tonight, but I don't believe I said that I blamed Vietnam on the "hippies," although I found them to be a shallow, contemptible lot.

What I DID say was that I blame Fonda for her actions, which helped fuel contempt for our fighting men at home and gave aid and comfort to the enemy.

Mr Big · « **Reply #94 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:18:16 AM »

I'm 41

I can sing better, play guitar better, write better songs, am more inteligent, sensitive, creative, and generally more hip than anyone else here.

Even I know that I am over the hill and my hipness has long gone.

Nash · « **Reply #95 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:18:37 AM »

That's what I don't think you get, Shuckins.

Fonda didn't "fuel contempt"..... she was a product of it!

GRUNHERZ · « **Reply #96 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:18:41 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash

I hope.... I sincerely hope.... that one day we - we in general - will emerge from this, and apply a greater degree of sophistication to what happened then and what's happening now. Not vilifying what went wrong, and not ignoring what went right.

Nash · « **Reply #97 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:21:30 AM »

amen, grun.

Shuckins · « **Reply #98 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:31:29 AM »

I understand exactly what you're saying Nash...I just don't agree with it. She is NOT a victim.

Fonda's actions weren't the product of "outside forces." She saw herself as a mover and a shaper of events...she freely and without duress formed her idyllic image of an America transformed by a pure, radical, socialistic movement. It was she, and nobody else, who made the decision to make inflammatory statements about the military and the fighting men fighting in Vietnam.

I strongly suspect that you've performed only a cursory examination of the historical records of what she did. If you are truly objective about this topic you need to read several sources on Hanoi Jane before calling her detractor's motives into question.

Nash · « **Reply #99 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:42:26 AM »

I can certainly understand, Shuckins. And the differences... well, they're okay.

I just don't think that Vietnam falls on her shoulders. I think that you've got to look much higher for that. Like, to the war planners, and the policy makers.

Sure, you've got a beef with Jane Fonda. I get that, though. I can see how.

But like, if Vietnam is 100, then Jane Fonda is roughly 2.

So - where is the shouting over the other 98? Why not the same passion?

Mr Big · « **Reply #100 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:45:21 AM »

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Originally posted by Nash
I just don't think that Vietnam falls on her shoulders.

Really? And I was always led to believe that the war was all because of her. LOL!

Christ.

Nash · « **Reply #101 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:48:38 AM »

Nuke - aka Mr. Big.

Ready to get undressed?

Mr Big · « **Reply #102 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:52:22 AM »

wow Nash, really quick with the ID.

Nash · « **Reply #103 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:56:17 AM »

I usually suck at ID'n shades.

It helps when they PM you and tell ya who they really are.

Woulda left ya alone... but you're being a doofus.

Mr Big · « **Reply #104 on:** April 11, 2006, 12:57:16 AM »

I'm not trying to be left alone.