Hanoi Jane movie

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Nash
Great point, JT. And you're right - it's beyond alot of people here.

That war is closing in on 40 years old. Fourty years.

A horrific and sad outcome, sure. And the wounds are still so close to the surface.

There have been dozens and dozens of great books written on the subject. Really great books. Covering both the situation on the ground, and the politics back in Washington.

If you were born in a cocoon, and raised by wolves, and your only outlet to the world was the AH BBS, it's quite understandable that you'd come to believe that the fiasco that was the Vietnam war was the result of some actress called Jane Fonda.

Really.

Vietnam? Jane Fonda this. Jane Fonda that. She's a biatch.

And Mike Moore is fat.

And Kerry is a coward.

And Universities are terrorist breeding grounds.

And the media are in on the conspiracy.

And freedom is just another word for nothing left to lose....

The lunatics have taken over the asylum, and they're winning.

It worked great. In the decades to follow, we'll blame the Iraq fiasco on Cindy Sheehan.

[Nash]

lol - no kidding.

[GRUNHERZ]

I'd like to know do u guys think Jane Fonda posing with the north vietnames aintio aircraft gun during a time of war was basically a "good" thing to do?

[Nash]

No, I don't think so. Not really.

Not too big of a deal in the overall picture of things, was it though?

To listen to folks around here though - it's basically the only thing.

I've haven't seen much dissection of the war containing the names Kennedy, Johnson, McNamara, Kissinger and Nixon....

... but if I had a dime for every time Jane gets a mention.....

[Stringer]

Was it an officially declared war?

I don't believe it ever was.  AFAIK, it was a police action.  Kind of hard to be a traitor when the nation is not officially at war.

Can't play it both ways IMO.

[Stringer]

Originally posted by john9001


  the insurgents keep blowing things up because they think the USA will go away if they blow up enough stuff.

The fools don't understand that if they stop blowing up stuff the US will go away.

Look the insurgents say,boosh's ratings are falling, set off more car bombs.

 

I don't think you have it right.  Who says the insurgents want us out of Iraq.  It is in their best interest to keep us tied up in that quagmire.  They get more funding if that's the case, they keep in the news if they keep killing us there, and they grow bigger in Arab stature if they keep us tied up there.

I think they want us there and I think they are smarter than you have given them credit for.  They may not have wanted us to invade and be there originally, but keeping us there helps their cause more than ours.  Especially their financial cause.  At least for the near term.  Long term...sure they want us out.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by Nash
No, I don't think so. Not really.

Not too big of a deal in the overall picture of things, was it though?

 

LOL maybe not to you but im sure the men who where guest of the Hanoi Hilton
would disagree with you.

[midnight Target]

Originally posted by fartwinkle
LOL maybe not to you but im sure the men who where guest of the Hanoi Hilton
would disagree with you.

And I think she’s going to tell you she was young and foolish and regrets it.  And if anybody regrets something they’ve done—I’ve regretted some of the things I’ve done in my life—that’s fine with me.


 
Look, I didn’t like it.  I don’t like it.  But for me to hold a grudge against her, I think, you know, it’s a waste of time.

John McCain

And you would be wrong.

[Hangtime]

That's one POW's opinion.

It's kinda sad that politicans are held up as poster boy war hero vote magnets when the sad fact is that politicans always betray their fellow veterans when they put on the political clown suit and sell out to corporate lobbies.

[DiabloTX]

Originally posted by Hangtime
That's one POW's opinion.

It's kinda sad that politicans are held up as poster boy war hero vote magnets when the sad fact is that politicans always betray their fellow veterans when they put on the political clown suit and sell out to corporate lobbies.

Yep.  One word: Cunningham.  

Talk about a true betrayal of his country.

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Pooh21
oh so hes a lumberjack then?

Yes he is. in Fact. Nash is the one the LUMBERJACK SONG

was written about

[DREDIOCK]

Originally posted by Urchin


You want her to lead a small expedition into Mexico, and be surrounded and killed?  

For treason?  

That is beyond odd.

While that would work too.
wrong Philip Nolan.

I was refering to this  Philip Nolan
 The man without a country

[Pongo]

Jane was fine.

[fartwinkle]

Originally posted by midnight Target
And you would be wrong.

And how would you know?
You ever been a POW?
As a matter of fact have you ever served your country ?

She is a POS that should choke on a horses dork for all I care skank HO!

[Shuckins]

MT, Hanoi Jane may have been foolish, but she wasn't young.  

She was 34 years old when she made her infamous trip to North Vietnam.  Plenty old enough to know better.