Author Topic: RC park flyers (Read 890 times)

ramzey · « **on:** April 09, 2006, 09:10:33 PM »

I linke to buy one of this babies, but as for beginer is tuff choice.
I find in local store this one
http://h1070845.hobbyshopnow.com/products/description.asp?prod=PKZ1500

my question is, should i go with this one or buy separate 4 channel radio, battert-charger pack and model.
If i should go what brand/model of radio i shouls buy (cheap and good)

Im not sure i can use servo from this kit to other plane when i trash it

My goals are :
-electric
-it have to be non-LW wardbird (best for me would be P51b/C, but i cant find one)
- plane should have aleirons , elevator and rudder control
- total cost should close between 250-300

any advices are welcome

Vudak · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2006, 09:23:01 PM »

I don't have any answers to any of your questions but I think you just led me to a new hobby. Probably an expensive one. Thanks alot for that

Dago · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2006, 09:26:17 PM »

As everyone will tell you, if this is your first RC airplane, do NOT buy a warbird.

Buy a trainer aircraft, and get someone experienced to teach you!

Flying an RC is not like flying a game like Aces High. RC is very differant, and you will crash your first plane, probably more than once.

The flight modeling of a warbird takes experience to handle, and this means RC experience.

If you are determined to buy a warbird first, better you send me the money, as you are wasting it either way, and this way nobody gets hurt and no property gets damaged.

RC flying is fun when you get some experience and can reasonably expect to land in once piece.

dago

Vudak · « **Reply #3 on:** April 09, 2006, 09:29:47 PM »

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Originally posted by Dago

and no property gets damaged.

Now sir, what is the fun in that?

Seriously though, I take it that if this warbird is $179 a trainer's gotta be alot less - that is good. I might not have to be so mad at ramzey. Any suggestions on a model? Summer's coming up

GtoRA2 · « **Reply #4 on:** April 09, 2006, 09:32:25 PM »

This place has 2 P-51bs on it.

I want to see the first flight!:D

this one seems real cool, 4 blade prop, it would be cool to build as a static

ramzey · « **Reply #5 on:** April 09, 2006, 09:37:48 PM »

yes i was thinking about trainer first
but with yaw, pich, rudder and roll control, thats why i ask for advice about radio, its better to buy radio and then trainer thern warbird
or
buy a kit, move radio and servos to much less expencive plane, then move it back to warbirds
$$$ resources are very importand

GtoRA2,
yes you can film if you bring anti AA weapon:) M14 is good enough:)

ChickenHawk · « **Reply #6 on:** April 09, 2006, 10:18:51 PM »

Lol, my brother came up for a visit and he and I just came back from two hobby stores yesterday looking at this very same plane. After looking at it in person and watching online video of it in action he was sold. He's going to order the FW190 as soon as he gets home.

Dago is right about not getting a gas powered warbird as your first RC plane, but this one is a slow park flyer and so falls out of the "don't buy first" category. I really don't think you'll have any trouble with it. Spare parts are easily available at many hobby store that carries these ParkZone planes.

You listed rudder control as a requirement. Just so you know, these are three channel, throttle, ailerons and elevator. No rudder.

Here's some video of it in action:
http://h1072147.hobbyshopnow.com/ProdInfo/Files/Parkzone_P-51_D_Mustang_320x240_bb.wmv

Chairboy · « **Reply #7 on:** April 09, 2006, 10:42:22 PM »

That's not bad, but you won't be able to fly with any wind because of the lack of rudder, not to mention that you'll be limited in what you learn.

Consider something like http://www.hobbypeople.net/gallery/160522.asp (a Simple Stick) that you can finish with full 3d controls.

I haven't flown in years, but I'm about ready to pull one of my Zagi's down from storage in my garage. I've got a couple, a slope glider and a speed 400 electric. I'm thinking of converting the glider to a dual ducted fan and decorating it to look like a Ho-229 Gotha, and I've also thought in the past about putting some light weight trike gear on my shuttle themed speed 400 Zagi.

(both are flying wings, built for combat. You try to knock the other guy out of the sky, good stuff).

...but then again, there's that damn real plane I'm working on.

Reschke · « **Reply #8 on:** April 09, 2006, 10:59:36 PM »

This one can't be that hard to fly. Stuka love baby!

http://hobby-lobby.com/stuka.htm

ramzey · « **Reply #9 on:** April 09, 2006, 11:05:04 PM »

ok, so separate parts

at start i would go with model Chairboy link its cheap and fit to my needs
then swich to P51b

what radio i should buy?

any 4 channel radio or its special for electric planes? how about ebay or only in store for guarantee?
i assume motor is included in allmost any kit

what else?

Dago · « **Reply #10 on:** April 09, 2006, 11:18:44 PM »

Ahh, I didnt look close enough to see it was an electric aircraft.

Probably be fun, but again I would still recommend an experienced flier to help you start.

Tarmac · « **Reply #11 on:** April 09, 2006, 11:22:23 PM »

Motors aren't necessarily included. That link that Chairboy posted looks like a decent starter from the webpage, although I've never seen one in person. Check out the "items needed" page for all the little stuff to buy (it adds up) - things like servos, motors, batteries, and speed controllers.

Foam = big plus. Foamies can take crashes. My Zagi (a flying wing foamie) has full-power augered from 50 feet at nearly 90 degrees and survived with only a few dents. That kit says you don't have to cover with tape, but I would. Tape covering aids visibility, can help directional orientation if you make a distinctive pattern, and adds strength and durability to the foam.

Electric = big plus. Don't have to screw with fuel/air mixtures, humidity, glow plugs, messy fuel, and all that other crap. I learned to fly with a .40 glow fuel trainer, then moved on to electrics in college. I'll never go back to glow fuel.

Any 4 channel radio will serve you well if cost is an issue. I have a Futaba 4 channel radio that still works fine after 10 years of on-and-off use.

eagl · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2006, 02:57:28 AM »

Definately go with a trainer first, but don't expect it to be any cheaper than a hotter model unless you buy really crappy parts. A lot of people buy a a cheap radio to go in their first trainer and not only are they disappointed with the radio as they learn, they still end up buying a better radio when they get their next model. Too cheap is just as bad as too expensive... Try to buy mainstream good quality stuff and you'll probably be ok.

MiloMorai · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2006, 06:26:20 AM »

Make sure you have really good liability insurance. Hit someone/something in the park and you will be in the poorhouse.

Noob RC fliers and people don't mix. There is an advert on the the TV here that has a beserk electric plane terrorizing a park.

Chairboy · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2006, 07:41:54 AM »

In the US, a good source for that insurance is the AMA (American Modelers Association). Most RC parks will demand it, and it's pretty cheap.