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Offline Bronk

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« Reply #30 on: April 12, 2006, 09:48:07 PM »
How about the fact that the Germans declared war then attacked U.S.  .
Unlike the Japs who sneak attacked then declared war.
My grandad was in WWII also he had no problems with the Germans after the war.  But he stated the above as one reason why he still hated the japs.


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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2006, 09:09:48 AM »
It is difficult for me to  say that the japs that fought us in WWII are not the same people that are living there now.  I believe that given half a chance they would act exactly the same.

despite any weepy rolex samari post.

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« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2006, 11:46:02 AM »
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It is difficult for me to  say that the japs that fought us in WWII are not the same people that are living there now.  I believe that given half a chance they would act exactly the same.

despite any weepy rolex samari post.

lazs



I agree, all the people from the nations that fought WW2, may think they have come a long way, but we have not.

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« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2006, 12:08:43 PM »
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Indeed.

I rented this movie.  I had put the kids to bed and was relaxing and watching it in my bedroom.

I didn't know it but my younger son has walked into the room and had very quietly got up on my bed without me knowing it.  Then the scene came on where the Japanese put the prisoners into the bunker and poured gas on it and then lit it up.

My son then piped up "They are getting burned daddy!"

I just about jumped out of my skin because he scared the heck out of me and then quickly shut off the movie.  My son was somewhat traumatised by what he saw so I sat him down and tried my best to explain to him that although it was a movie it was based on true events.  I told him that war was a very bad thing and that hatred makes people do some very nasty things.

The next night he woke up screaming.  Poor kid was shaking like a leaf.  His mother couldn't comfort him and he insisted that I lie down with him and "tell him about war".  Tough subject to try and teach a five year old.

He only did this once so hopefully I said the right things....dunno.
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« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2006, 12:26:53 PM »
Damn... don't envy you the shock of that; kids are very impressionable at that age.
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« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2006, 12:53:52 PM »
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MY Grandfather passed away in March of 1998.  He was in the 6th Marine Division and hated the Japanese with a passion.  If we went to a Chinese Restaurant, he'd order a Burger or steak in protest.  


typo ?

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« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2006, 01:18:16 PM »
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typo ?


Reminds me of a scene in Stalingrad (movie)

Rollo gets a letter from his wife telling him that his wife is having an affair with a French POW.  He gets really annoyed and when talking to one of the other guys in his platoon says "Just you wait.  I'm gonna kill those Russian ***tards"  His friend then says "But he was a Frenchman."  Rollo responds "I don't give a *****".:rofl
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« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2006, 03:23:16 PM »
Was Stalingrad that really bad sniper movie?

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« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2006, 03:25:05 PM »
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Was Stalingrad that really bad sniper movie?


No..that was Enemy at the Gates.

Stalingrad was an excellent movie.  The same guys that did Das Boot made it.
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« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2006, 03:43:24 PM »
Ahh ok, I will have to look for it.

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« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2006, 06:06:43 PM »
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typo ?


Negative, after the Surrender, he was one of many that spent well into 1946 under the "Occupation of China" for "rounding up the Holdouts".  He got treated like watermelon by the Chinese.   So again, no typo.
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« Reply #41 on: August 14, 2006, 12:30:09 AM »
I finally got to see this movie. Good call, Lasz. Best war movie I've seen in a while.
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« Reply #42 on: August 14, 2006, 09:44:45 AM »
According to Fly Boys (the fairly recent book about US airmen who were captured by the Japanese) in the Russo-Japanese War and in WW1 Japanese treatment of POWs was reasonably humane.  The author attributed the change in behavior to the ultra-nationalist cult that took over between the wars.

When I got my concealed carry permit,  the police instructor asked if anyone in the class had served in the Pacific in WW2.  When no one indicated that they had, he said that he always asked that because people who had were very difficult to instruct on the concept of a "reasonable" use of force.  Pacific vets apparently moved very quickly up the ladder to "exterminate".

Since in Fly Boys a number of the prisoners were not only tortured but executed and partially eaten, I guess you can't really blame the vets.