Author Topic: Guess who's this (Read 608 times)

Boroda · « **Reply #15 on:** April 12, 2006, 12:00:51 PM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Another commie martyr mystery; enh Boroda?

Ever heard of Occam's razor?

Boroda · « **Reply #16 on:** April 12, 2006, 01:25:13 PM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
Its the guy who shotdown KAL 007?

Well, if you want some shooting - let's remember what happened 10 years before Gagarin's flight.

Anmokkan (Yalu-dzian) river, near An'dun, April 12th 1951. 48 Superfortresses heading to the railway bridge, covered by several dozen escort jet fighters, met by MiG-15s from 64th IAK who were outnumbered 3:1 (in fact - more, because MiGs came in small groups).

Result: 10 "fortresses" and 2 "Shooting Stars" shot down. "UN" side reported 19 (nineteen) MiGs shot down. All Soviet planes returned to base. Several bombers broke through to the bridge, but failed to destroy it.

Yeager · « **Reply #17 on:** April 12, 2006, 01:51:58 PM »

http://www.b-29s-over-korea.com/MIG-15/Perf_Mig-15_Combat_2.html

Mig15 was a hot plane in 1953......still one of the best weapons the USSR ever produced even to this day, and the T34 series tank. Great stuff.

straffo · « **Reply #18 on:** April 12, 2006, 02:00:59 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
He's so happy because he just finished his breakfast and ate two little kids.

I thought he was Russian ,not French

Hangtime · « **Reply #19 on:** April 12, 2006, 03:17:11 PM »

The french don't eat children for breakfast.

Being more civilized, they're usually served on little crackers just after dinner with the cognac.

Holden McGroin · « **Reply #20 on:** April 12, 2006, 03:29:06 PM »

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Originally posted by Boroda
Ever heard of Occam's razor?

You sayin' some guy named Occam slit Juri's throat?

Boroda · « **Reply #21 on:** April 13, 2006, 09:02:26 AM »

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Originally posted by Holden McGroin
You sayin' some guy named Occam slit Juri's throat?

Exactly! In Yeager's terms - Gagarin was killed by Western clericals, who couldn't belive in space flight.

Hangtime · « **Reply #22 on:** April 13, 2006, 09:06:10 AM »

Actually, Yuri was the first guy to survive space flight. There were a coupla attempts previous.. didn't go so well.

Right, Comrade Boroda?

Boroda · « **Reply #23 on:** April 13, 2006, 11:55:03 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime
Actually, Yuri was the first guy to survive space flight. There were a coupla attempts previous.. didn't go so well.

Right, Comrade Boroda?

Sure, that Redstone rockets were quite unreliable.

JFYI: Gagarin's flight was announced after the take-off, about an hour before he landed. Before him a capsule with two dogs was lost, please compare it to the number of monkeys lost in Redstone/Mercury capsules. BTW, many Soviet "space-dogs" vere real veterans, for example famous Belka and Strelka flew several times in sub-orbital capsules before their orbital flight in Vostok ship in 1960.

Hangtime · « **Reply #24 on:** April 13, 2006, 12:17:51 PM »

LOL... went right over your head.

Lets try "Yuri was the first Human to survive russian spaceflight". It's my understanding that three Russian Sub-Orbital flights were attempted previous to Yuri's launch.

They didn't make it.

So, yes; Yuri was your first succesful manned launch... but your Cosmonaut Alexis Ludovski in 1957 was the first Russian in Space.

http://www.aulis.com/nasa8.htm

Edit: Correction. Illusyin was the first to space and back alive... he just happened to land a bit off course.

Note: None of the above is intended as a 'slam' on the Russian Program... Otto Lilienthals last words were "Sacrafices Must Be Made", and the road from gliders to space is paved in the blood of willing aviators that knew damn well that what they were about would likely cost their lives... and they stood up, suited up and went out to make history. It's a shame that the men in the Soviet Union that were there first and died in the attempts are neither aknowledged or honored publicly for their sacrafice.