Bf 109 E7

[Treize69]

The LW needs a JaBo in early war setups for scenarios and the AvA. Something other than the 110, which is good but is not capable of really fighting off Spits, Hurris and P-40s if they're flown right (or if a non-110 flier is at the controls)

How difficult would it be to modify the current Bf109E4 into a later E7? Pointier spinner and slightly higher performance, but otherwise a pretty normal Emil. Main difference being the ability to carry either a drop tank or varios droppable munitions.

It was used extensively by the LW on the Channel Coast and in the Med/NA, and was the main JaBo aircraft on the Eastern Front in the first year of Barbarossa before they were handed over to German allies (Romania, Hungary, and Croatia primarily) as the 109F and 109G came along.

from FAQs.org

Bf-109E-7: Long range fighter, similar to Bf-109E-4/N but with centerline rack for a drop tank or bomb. Modifications included a "Bf-109E-7/U2" with engine armor protection, a "Bf-109E-7/Z" with nitrous-oxide boost, and a "Bf-109E-7/Trop" tropicalized fighter.

and from Vectorsite

A long-range fighter / Jabo variant, the "Bf-109E-7", was produced with a rack for a 300 liter (80 US gallon) centerline drop tank or 250 kilogram (550 pound) bomb. A "Bf-109E-7/U2" modification was produced for ground attack with armor protection for critical engine systems, and a "Bf-109E-7/Z" modification was built for high-altitude operation using GM-1 nitrous oxide engine boost. The nitrous oxide provided supplemental oxidizer for the engine, with the nitrous oxide bottle placed under the pilot's seat. However, the nitrous oxide kit was heavy, and its placement disturbed the balance of the aircraft, leading to unpleasant stall-spin characteristics.

Meanwhile, in Africa, after being introduced to the theater in April 1941, the Bf-109E was enjoying the success to which it had been accustomed, racking up large numbers of kills against RAF Hurricanes and Kittyhawks. The Emil was modified for African operations by being fitted with engine sand filters and a desert survival kit. The survival kit contained food and water, a lightweight carbine, signal equipment, and other gear. The result were the "tropicalized" subvariant modifications, designated with the suffix "Trop". "Bf-109E-4/Trop", "Bf-109E-5/Trop", and "Bf-109E-7/Trop" subvariants were introduced.

[Krusty]

The e-7 would be a different model, alongside the e-4. The problem is they're too similar to bother with both. The e-4 fills the niche role for the BOB, so we have to have that. That means that of the two, the one we have to have, we do have.

I also argued for an E-7 when they were redoing the 109 series, but I knew it wasn't a strong argument.

I guess they realized the E-4 is pretty close, and there's not much of a role for the E-7, so they left it out.

Same thing for the 109F-2. They left that out as well. No need for both it and the F-4, see what I mean?

[Treize69]

There is a major difference between the E4 and E7- one can carry bombs or a droptank, and be used as a Jabo, and one can't carry anything. Neither can the F. There is a definite gap until the 190A comes along in the planeset.

Plus E4s were almost completely removed from service by spring of 1941, while E7s were still in service at Stalingrad and beyond. The last recorded victory of an E7 in the ARR (Lt. Av. Stefan Florescu of Escadrila 53) was on August 23, 1944 against a Pe-2.

[Krusty]

Many E-4s were fitted with a rack for a bomb, after the fact. In fact our 109E4 had them before they were re-done, and then it was taken off (to make it more of the pure fighter found in the BOB).

Many E-4s were flying along with E-7s until both were pulled. In fact, almost all of the tropical versions were E-4s, even after E-7s came out. These aircraft soldiered on for a longer time than most folks realize.

[Treize69]

Thats part of the reason I suggest the E7 too, instead of changing the E4- we could have a bomb-carrying Emil without having to worry about BoB era mass Jabo raids.

Would restore a missing aspect of the early planeset without affecting the balance of an earlier setup.

[sharp8th]

yup i think we need some moe 109's

[Krusty]

Hey, I'd personally LOVE it because it has a DT >

Other than that, I would like it, but I doubt we'll ever see it.

[Treize69]

Thats why its called a 'wishlist'

I also wish to wake up next to Jessica Alba in the morning, but that won't happen either.

[Krusty]

Originally posted by Treize69
Thats why its called a 'wishlist'

I also wish to wake up next to Jessica Alba in the morning, but that won't happen either.

That's because she was with me last night!

...until I woke up, that is...

[jhenhao]

I think she is a good airplane. It turns well, rolls well . But I never see many on the air.

Even the P-40 ,FM-2 has the drop tank and bomb...Why Email could not have.

Although standard outputs of DB 601A and DB 601N were similar,but the DB 601N offered 895 kW (1200 HP) with full boost for one minute at take-off, and an emergency power rating of 947 kW (1270 HP) for a similar period at 5000 meters. So have E7 with DB 601N ..... Maybe a good choice for everyone to have a chance for balancing the plane between early-war and late-war standard.

~Under a good pilot control.....The Email could still fight well to against the Mustang and Spitfire....~