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Udie · « **Reply #15 on:** October 10, 2000, 09:16:00 AM »

"he's a major league bellybutton hole" - G.W. Bush

Sounded like somebody saying it like it is to me.

"No controling legal authority" - Al Gore Jr.

What has Bush lied about? Can you tell me one thing? There's a list of stuff Gore has lied about, and that list gets bigger every day, realy just about every time he opens his mouth.

About forieng affairs polotics, don't underestimate Bush he's a smart man and will hire smart people. Can you remember Dick Cheney's roll in the keeping the coilition together in the Gulf War? In the debate Bush was asked what he would do about Slobo Melisovich if he wouldn't leave power. Bush said he'd ask Russia to tell tell him to leave. Gore then said how wrong Bush was and that would put us in a position where we'd be forced to do what Russia wanted even if we didn't like what they said. Well the whole time Clinton was doing exactly what Gov. Bush suggested. Gore basicly insulted Russia on national television.

I'm sorry but the only time I remember Gore actualy doing his constitutional duty as VP was when he cast the tie breaking vote giving us the largest tax increase in US history. At least he's not as slick as Clinton, I realy don't think Gore could/will get away with 1/4 of what Clinton has.

udie

StSanta · « **Reply #16 on:** October 10, 2000, 09:53:00 AM »

Just asking Toad, I want both sides of the issue.

I mean, Bush has skeletons in his closets too, like the coke experimentation bit.

As far as "learning to fly jets, dangerous ones", I doubt *anyone* of us would give up an opportunity to "patriotically defend our country, taking huge risks flying jet planes".

Hell, that's not a job. It ain't even patriotic. It'd be FUN.

"You are an [insert], therefore your argument is invalid".

Seems to be what public debates on politicians have come to be

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Was a funny pic though, it's just a little one sided on this forum. And I am prone to help out minorities in such situations

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Igloo · « **Reply #17 on:** October 10, 2000, 11:21:00 AM »

If Bush was "calling it as it is" he would have had the balls to say to his face instead of being a sneaky rat and attempt to cover it up as "an aside" to his running mate.

Bush has said with misguided confidence that he has never excecuted one innocent person in Texas. Frankly, you cannot say that because you cannot know with certinty.

If you like him "calling it as he sees it", perhaps you won't mind when he calls the leader of China a "Communist salamander" or something like that. Don't feel so confident, China could give the US a good run for their money.

One reporter at CNN had to ask George Bush if he was Dislexic (sp?) because he randomly broke his sentences with mumbling pig latin. He couldn't express himself clearly and mixed up his words. Go ahead and elect a person like that to be responsible with very complex international affairs. Do what you will, it is not my country, but I can garuntee you will not be better off with Bush than you are with Clinton.

I find Bush funny, but that's about it.

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Rebel · « **Reply #18 on:** October 10, 2000, 12:18:00 PM »

<<Dislexic (sp?) >>

Dyslexic

Close, but no cigar. And it's nothing to make fun of. Dyslexia sucks the life out of anyone.

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AKDejaVu · « **Reply #19 on:** October 10, 2000, 12:24:00 PM »

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If Bush was "calling it as it is" he would have had the balls to say to his face instead of being a sneaky rat and attempt to cover it up as "an aside" to his running mate.

He apologized that people heard it. He never apologized that he said it. That makes it "calling it as it is". I don't recall anyone writing/broadcasting a story on just what a swell person that reporter was and how wrong Bush was.

Bush thought the mics were off. He wouldn't have said it otherwise. It doesn't mean it wasn't accurate.

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Bush has said with misguided confidence that he has never excecuted one innocent person in Texas. Frankly, you cannot say that because you cannot know with certinty.

Oh.. come on. You have to do better than that. A real lie.. not something that could be untrue.. something you know to be untrue. Did he help to create the internet?

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If you like him "calling it as he sees it", perhaps you won't mind when he calls the leader of China a "Communist salamander" or something like that.

Erm.. right. You do realize you've just made a huge leap in illogical conclusions 101 don't you?

Sheesh

AKDejaVu

Gunthr · « **Reply #20 on:** October 10, 2000, 12:49:00 PM »

Igloo, if you would take a minute, I'm curious as to your background, and how you came to be so liberal in your philosophy.

I'm basically ignorant of Canadian government except I know that you have socialized medicine, and if I'm not mistaken, your taxes are high because of it.

Is Canada a two-party system?

Udie · « **Reply #21 on:** October 10, 2000, 12:57:00 PM »

Some people will look logic right in the face and laugh at it. But there's one fact that I will be basing my vote on this year. Al Gore has spent the last 8 years lieing and covering for bill clinton. Sorry but that disqualifies him from getting my vote. I have yet to catch GW in a lie and he's been my Govenor for a number of years now. He's yet to execute anybody that I know of. He realy has no say so in the matter here in Texas, he has to follow the choice of the board of parolls or some agency like that, can't remember which one. When elected GW wont be the first dislexic president either

as if dislexia was some bad mental discease anyway, good God is that all the libs can come up with?

Gore is a liar, not a good one at that.

Udie

Igloo · « **Reply #22 on:** October 10, 2000, 01:21:00 PM »

Canada has more than two parties. One of which is called "Liberal" and is currently in office, so to speak.

We have the Liberals, Canadian Alliance, NDP and Bloc Quebecois.

I am voting Canadian Alliance, so far.

My background? I'm open minded and willing to have change if it is for the better. If that means making additions to or subtractions from the Canadian Constitution, so be it. Yes, we have a Constitution.

The "amazinhunk" thing, from my perspecive (and David Letterman's

) looked great on him. It was a perfect example of him being a redneck weasel.

I did not joke about Dyslexia. Bush was manifesting those symptoms, whether he has it or not. It was enough for CNN to come outright and ask him.

One of the major responsibilites a president has is to be articulate and clear. Especially with international matters. He cannot rely on his staff to work with complex matters all the time.

If Ventura would run, I think he would make a good president. He is the most honest politician I have ever seen, a little like our own former Prime Minster Pierre Trudeau. Actually, I think Bill Maur (sp?), the host of Politically Incorrect, would make a great pres.

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Ripsnort · « **Reply #23 on:** October 10, 2000, 02:22:00 PM »

Errr, back to the subject, funny picture! I once shot at a duck over the top of my brothers head while in a canoe...that's when we decided that bringing peppermint schnapps on hunting trips was something you do after you finish for the day.

NATEDOG · « **Reply #24 on:** October 10, 2000, 03:48:00 PM »

Damn RIP! and you wanted to go shootin with me?!?!?!

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StSanta · « **Reply #25 on:** October 10, 2000, 04:16:00 PM »

LOL Rip

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Udie · « **Reply #26 on:** October 10, 2000, 04:18:00 PM »

I was soooo tempted to go downstairs to the shooting range while we were at the bar. Karnak would have loved it

Reseraunt, Bar, Gun store and shooting range all under one roof

OH MAN and the size of those black bass in that aquarium!!!!!

Udie

Toad · « **Reply #27 on:** October 10, 2000, 09:42:00 PM »

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Originally posted by StSanta:
Just asking Toad, I want both sides of the issue.

NP, I was just trying to give some perspective.

As far as "learning to fly jets, dangerous ones", I doubt *anyone* of us would give up an opportunity to "patriotically defend our country, taking huge risks flying jet planes".

So it may seem. Let me tell you my experience.

I went to UPT in November of '73. Class of 60 guys, 55 USAF Academy/ROTC mix, 4 from Norway and....one Air National Guard.

When we all met the first time and stood and told our life stories, the Guard guy metioned that he was from the C-141 unit in Norton (close to LA). He also mentioned that he was one of 3 Guard guys that accepted a slot to UPT in 1973...out of 335 slots offered by the USAF. I never checked his numbers but I believed him then and now. (You should have seen the looks on the faces of the 55 of us! We all were getting 6 year committments to the USAF after UPT. He had NONE...NONE!)

Six months after graduation he was flying in the Guard and working for Flying Tiger airlines, now undoubtedly a senior FedEx Captain.

Here's some info from an "official" Bush site:

"Pilot, Texas Air National Guard, 1968-73.
He served as an F-102 pilot for the Texas Air National Guard."

I'm guessing he went to UPT about '68. I don't know how many Guard slots were available and I don't know how many were filled. I don't know how hard George Senior would have had to pull strings to get his son in. Could have been tough, could have been easy.

I will say this...5 years later Guard slots were going begging. Fun job or not.

The military was NOT popular then. Like a lot of other guys, I got spit upon. (Image removed from quote.)

Big mistake! LOL! I still remember that one! Bet he didn't spit again till they unwired his jaw!
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Toad · « **Reply #28 on:** October 10, 2000, 09:48:00 PM »

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Originally posted by Igloo:
I'm more worried about the chance Bush has being elected and his dealing with international affairs

Oh, is that all that worries you?

Relax!

We've cut a deal with canada. They're going to lead the world for the next 4 years.

It's an expensive hobby though...you might want to start raising taxes.

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Igloo · « **Reply #29 on:** October 11, 2000, 11:38:00 AM »

Dealing with international matters with Mexico is not comparable with hosting a peace sumit to end a 2000+ y/old war in the Middle East. Frankly, it does not appear that Bush would be capable of this task. He can't even study before debates. His advisors say that once he is crammed with details he does poorly under pressure. Isn't that a good quality to have when dealing with, sometimes hostile, international policies.

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