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Offline Ripsnort

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« on: April 17, 2006, 12:13:43 PM »

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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2006, 12:19:05 PM »
Hell yeah.

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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2006, 12:24:42 PM »
good article!

thx for posting Rip

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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2006, 12:42:35 PM »
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good article!

thx for posting Rip
Rip-n-pasted from another BBS where I read the article. :) you're most welcome xrtoronto.

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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2006, 12:43:19 PM »
Wow.  A smart article backed up by facts that doesn't resort to name-calling and political bashing.  Good read.

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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2006, 12:43:25 PM »
Rip doesn't seem like a Washington Post type of guy.  
I wonder what drew him to that particular web site?

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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2006, 12:45:11 PM »
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Rip doesn't seem like a Washington Post type of guy.  
I wonder what drew him to that particular web site?


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Rip-n-pasted from another BBS where I read the article. :) you're most welcome xrtoronto.


And you're right about the Post, very left leaning newsprint.  I prefer the Washington Times. :aok  Incidently, I like reading it all, to get different perspectives, and to re-inforce the opinions that I carry. ;)

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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2006, 12:47:38 PM »
The Post has better comics & a better sports page

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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2006, 12:48:03 PM »
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The Post has better comics & a better sports page
Agreed. and that area has a nice balance of left and right newspapers. Here in Seattle, you get Left wing Seattle Times rag, or wacko liberal Seattle Intelligencer (owned by Seattle times!)  *sigh*

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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2006, 01:27:08 PM »
So nobody saw this guy on Penn & Teller? Patrick Moore was on describing how Greenpeace was hijacked by socialist political movements. Good episode, laughed like crazy when they did the dihydrogen monoxide petition.

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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2006, 01:41:07 PM »
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wacko liberal Seattle Intelligencer


Intelligencer?

editoh Seattle Post Intelligencer

wow that is one of the more retarder newspaper names out there.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2006, 01:45:47 PM »
Ahhh Seattle, where men love men and the ladies have braided armpit hair.
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« Reply #12 on: April 17, 2006, 02:01:00 PM »
Ok, I'm not saying this guy doesn't have a point, but there's a couple things in that article that are either incorrect or intentionally kept very vague.

He says that so far there's been 56 deaths directly related to Chernobyl. That's a UN/IAEA figure, the Ukrainian Government's commission on radiation security alone claims 34499 dead until this day, the WHO figure was around 50000 6 years ago.
I don't know which figure is true, but there's no doubt that when the IAEA Director General assessed the site in 1986 as the first western visitor his report was very much in favor of the ukranian and russian response to the accident. Until this day there's a memorial for him at the kiev institute for radiation medicine thanking him for his support.
His name was Hans Blix, btw.
All this doesn't refute the authors argument of nuclear energy being a clean form of energy, but he's definately using the most favorable figures available to make his points on reactor safety.

Second he claims that nuclear energy is cheap and will become even cheaper. That's not likely. China alone is building over 20 new nuclear plants and yet even today demand in raw uranium ore exceeds production capacities. The increased demand is currently being covered by stockpiles of ore dating back into the cold war era. As soon as the stockpiles are used up a steadily increasing demand will exceed supply. That never helps in making things cheaper.

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« Reply #13 on: April 17, 2006, 02:54:05 PM »
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And you're right about the Post, very left leaning newsprint.  I prefer the Washington Times. :aok  Incidently, I like reading it all, to get different perspectives, and to re-inforce the opinions that I carry. ;)


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Yeah, it's the Post, but he has a point.
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« Reply #14 on: April 17, 2006, 02:57:46 PM »
**** Yeah!