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Offline FTJR

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« on: April 22, 2006, 04:25:56 AM »
Hi,
I haven't posted here in a while, just thought I'd work slowly on yet another 51. Since the 51 line up is full.  Rogerdee kindly loaned me his panel lines.

What do you think of the metal effect? Also any/all suggestions welcome.
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« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2006, 05:14:22 AM »
now  that  looks  sexy  and its  got roundelsonit  too:aok

its looking great  and i think the  metal  works well,but   remember  th wings were painted silver  i believe.great  work tho
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« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2006, 06:59:15 AM »
Love the rudder !
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« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2006, 08:12:13 AM »
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Hi,
I haven't posted here in a while, just thought I'd work slowly on yet another 51. Since the 51 line up is full.  Rogerdee kindly loaned me his panel lines.

What do you think of the metal effect? Also any/all suggestions welcome.


Looks great!

Remember that while the lineup is full, Skuzzy has stated that they will still except skins of equal quality and rotate them into the lineup over time.

There are so many good P-51 out there to be done, like this one.
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« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2006, 11:25:47 AM »
Thanks guys,

Rogerdee, the wings were silver? I missed that. Can you point me to a source for that? In the meantime Ill go back and look.

I am also having trouble posting other images, I get a message saying i've already posted that image, when I haven't.  Can someone help with that please.


umm the original pic has changed (how'd that happen???)


Regards
« Last Edit: April 22, 2006, 11:43:03 AM by FTJR »
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« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2006, 11:52:46 AM »
I'm by FAR the last person you want to ask, as I've only just recently finished my first metal skin.

However, I spot one discrepency.

You have a nice reflective shine on the top of the fuselage. Whether this is "painted on" or part of the materials file, it looks good.

There's no similar highlight on the wings. It creates a logical break, for me. I think you have to "paint on" a highlight on the wings' upper surface as well, just to make it look uniform.
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« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2006, 01:09:51 PM »
i kow it was posted  in  different   p51  discussions  that the wings were painteded silver  and not bare metal,if u search  for festers  big beautiful doll i am sure it is remarked  on in that   or  i am sure  guppy  will have  posted  it some where.
  i know that  big beautiful doll at  duxford  has painted  wings
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« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2006, 01:20:43 PM »
very good work, rudder is a shining feature.


I tend to agree with krusty on the wing shine, if you look close up you can see a lot of glare coming off the droptank, but not the wing just aboive it.

im not a skinner though and i dont kow how the relection model is coded in game.
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« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2006, 02:12:03 PM »
very nice! :)

yup, roger is right, the wings were painted silver, to give best effect with the laminar flow wing. it was actually filled in and smoothed off too, so panel lines wouldnt be extremely visible. the fuselage did stay bare metal though :)
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« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2006, 05:15:44 PM »
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i kow it was posted  in  different   p51  discussions  that the wings were painteded silver  and not bare metal,if u search  for festers  big beautiful doll i am sure it is remarked  on in that   or  i am sure  guppy  will have  posted  it some where.
  i know that  big beautiful doll at  duxford  has painted  wings


Silver is a pretty damned shiny material :P
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« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2006, 08:56:38 PM »
Again thanks for the posts.

Krusty, I will look at it. I am thinking the difference may be the light.?


Rogerdee, Poo, Bat, ok thanks I will also do a search on that. I am under the gun at the moment, have to go to work in an hour or so.

Appreciate the comments.

Regards
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 05:27:12 AM »
Updated Photo, I 've toned down the panel lines and rivets. Added some colour to the top wing.

Any comments?
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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 05:33:09 AM »
another shot.... hmmmm needs some work doesn't it.. Comments on how I might correct it? Thanks
« Last Edit: April 24, 2006, 05:39:18 AM by FTJR »
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 10:48:16 AM »
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another shot.... hmmmm needs some work doesn't it.. Comments on how I might correct it? Thanks


It looks like you have a solid color for all parts of the fuselage. To make it truly look metal, you can't use just 1 color.

There are countless ways of making it look more like metal (it seems to be a very subjective art). The basic run-down is that you use lighter colors on the parts that would be glaring, and darker colors on the lower surfaces.

You're basically painting on the sun glare. How you get there depends on how you do it. For example, however, in that screenshot you need to take a narrow band in the middle of the wing, from the cockpit to the wingtip, and make it lighter in color. Use new layers so you can start over if you don't like it.

Do the same for the fuselage.

This is the hard part with bare metal skins. I just finished my first, as well, and ran into this same problem.
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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 10:56:48 AM »
Alright, thanks Krusty.. I will get on to it.

Cheers
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