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Offline humble

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perplexing performance issues.....
« on: April 23, 2006, 03:54:35 PM »
I'm having ongoing issues with tremendous spiking in my variance....

ping plot shows connect in the 85-87 range with no packet loss....

I loaded FS autostart and have whittle proccess to 21....cpu usage shows zero and system resources appear to be excellent. I bypassed my Dlin wireless router and am plugged directly into my DSL modem (do I need to trouble shoot that?)....

I'm clueless on where to look at the moment....

current ping plotter trace....
Host Information
1,,-
2,phnx-dsl-gw05-197.phnx.qwest.net,67.40.227.197
3,phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net,67.40.227.93
4,tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.129.29
5,svx-core-02.inet.qwest.net,67.14.1.58
6,svx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net,205.171.214.130
7, -------------- ,67.131.255.42
8, -------------- ,216.140.3.65
9,so-7-0-0.c1.hywr.broadwing.net,216.140.0.69
10,so-2-0-0.a1.lsan.broadwing.net,216.140.0.78
11,P3-1.a0.lsan.broadwing.net,216.140.0.106
12,brw.gw.powerpulse,67.98.235.58
13,pos1-0.core02.las.oc48a.switch2switch.com,66.209.64.218
14, -------------- ,66.209.64.186
15,marchex.demarc.switch2switch.com,66.209.87.202
16,bwvip4.las.marchex.com,66.116.109.62

Sample Information
"4/23/2006 1:50:11 PM",*,53,54,75,77,70,71,74,N/A,84,86,91,85,88,87,85
"4/23/2006 1:50:26 PM",*,53,55,54,71,73,71,73,N/A,85,84,90,84,85,84,85
"4/23/2006 1:50:41 PM",*,53,53,53,84,69,72,76,N/A,N/A,83,92,85,87,87,90
"4/23/2006 1:50:56 PM",*,54,53,52,73,71,71,73,N/A,N/A,84,93,84,85,84,85
"4/23/2006 1:51:11 PM",*,51,52,53,70,71,72,85,N/A,N/A,85,92,86,86,85,86
"4/23/2006 1:51:26 PM",*,52,53,52,72,72,71,75,N/A,84,84,89,84,87,84,85
"4/23/2006 1:51:41 PM",*,53,52,53,70,69,72,75,N/A,N/A,85,90,86,86,85,86
"4/23/2006 1:51:56 PM",*,52,53,54,71,70,213,80,N/A,N/A,84,91,83,85,86,85
"4/23/2006 1:52:11 PM",*,53,56,53,72,72,72,89,N/A,N/A,87,90,85,84,85,84
"4/23/2006 1:52:26 PM",*,52,51,54,71,70,71,73,74,N/A,83,90,87,86,86,84
"4/23/2006 1:52:41 PM",*,53,54,55,72,71,70,80,75,83,85,92,85,86,87,84

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« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2006, 04:59:58 PM »
now get back behind your routor and see if its close to the same.

This will troubleshot ur routor .. and its safer btw

then run with xp's stupid firewall off and av off see if it changes anything

(only if behind routor so ur safe )

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« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2006, 07:04:30 PM »
turned off zone alarm (windows FW already off)....

Host Information
1, -------------- ,192.168.0.1
2,,-
3,phnx-dsl-gw05-197.phnx.qwest.net,67.40.227.197
4,phnx-agw1.inet.qwest.net,67.40.227.93
5,tmp-core-01.inet.qwest.net,205.171.129.29
6,svx-core-02.inet.qwest.net,67.14.1.58
7,svx-edge-02.inet.qwest.net,205.171.214.130
8, -------------- ,67.131.255.42
9, -------------- ,216.140.3.65
10,so-7-0-0.c1.hywr.broadwing.net,216.140.0.69
11,so-2-0-0.a1.lsan.broadwing.net,216.140.0.78
12,P3-1.a0.lsan.broadwing.net,216.140.0.106
13,brw.gw.powerpulse,67.98.235.58
14,pos1-0.core02.las.oc48a.switch2switch.com,66.209.64.218
15, -------------- ,66.209.64.186
16,marchex.demarc.switch2switch.com,66.209.87.202
17,bwvip4.las.marchex.com,66.116.109.62

Sample Information
"4/23/2006 4:58:09 PM",0,*,53,63,54,71,73,161,82,79,86,83,99,88,89,92,96
"4/23/2006 4:58:24 PM",0,*,54,54,54,71,72,72,73,76,84,84,90,85,86,85,86
"4/23/2006 4:58:39 PM",0,*,51,54,51,75,73,71,74,77,83,90,91,85,87,85,85
"4/23/2006 4:58:54 PM",0,*,53,53,54,72,72,70,75,N/A,N/A,86,91,87,86,85,86
"4/23/2006 4:59:09 PM",0,*,54,53,54,71,74,111,105,N/A,N/A,86,93,108,85,84,93
"4/23/2006 4:59:24 PM",0,*,55,53,63,70,72,72,74,N/A,N/A,84,91,85,86,85,84
"4/23/2006 4:59:39 PM",0,*,52,53,54,74,72,73,75,N/A,N/A,85,90,85,89,87,85
"4/23/2006 4:59:54 PM",0,*,52,51,54,72,71,76,73,N/A,N/A,84,91,84,*,86,84
"4/23/2006 5:00:09 PM",0,*,57,54,53,73,71,73,72,N/A,N/A,92,92,91,86,84,85
"4/23/2006 5:00:24 PM",0,*,55,53,52,73,76,71,75,N/A,N/A,84,91,86,91,84,85
"4/23/2006 5:00:39 PM",0,*,53,52,53,72,73,72,82,75,84,85,92,87,86,89,84
"4/23/2006 5:00:54 PM",0,*,52,52,59,71,72,91,157,120,N/A,83,92,86,86,104,85


showed some packet loss at hop 15 (7% or so)....
spiking all over.....


Sorry for dumb question but what is av?

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« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2006, 07:12:27 PM »
I fired up my old box (son has it) and basically have a flat line so the issue isnt in the connection. It's somewhere in this box, could it be a PS problem?

Othere thought is its a sound issue...will put in a sound card 1st....what other likely possibilities are their?

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« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2006, 07:48:57 PM »
Do both computers use an onboard LAN?  If you plug the computer in and get a flaky connection, I'd suspect either the driver for the LAN or maybe a hardware problem with it.  Do you have a plug-in network card you could try on the computer with the problems?  Have you tried updating the drivers for the motherboard and components?

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« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2006, 08:28:31 PM »
right now I have both on wireless, router has latest firmware and this box has a matching Dlink card thats there latest and greatest....will double check on firmware for card....other box has an SMC wireless card and runs flawlessly....easy to put a nic in and check however....

I'm down to 21 processes and will check the others just in case theres something i'm missing. Just loaded up my turtlebeach SC and no help:(....

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« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2006, 09:26:22 PM »
make sure it aint a heat issue, open your case and point a fan into it ..
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« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2006, 10:19:02 PM »
DO you see anything in offline mode?    With AH running , alt tab out and open taskmanager , take a look at the proccess list , in the view option, turn the update time up to high . Now look to see if any process is hitting the cpu at all . U might have already done this , or it could be network related , just tossin out an idea 38

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« Reply #8 on: April 24, 2006, 12:16:08 AM »
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DO you see anything in offline mode?    With AH running , alt tab out and open taskmanager , take a look at the proccess list , in the view option, turn the update time up to high . Now look to see if any process is hitting the cpu at all . U might have already done this , or it could be network related , just tossin out an idea 38


doesnt show anything else running all accept AH....cpu utilization on AH ia 97-100%....nothing else shows over 3-5 min of viewing time accept taskmanager got a % or 2 and explorer when I had this window in background got 2% for a sec...

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« Reply #9 on: April 24, 2006, 12:17:00 AM »
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make sure it aint a heat issue, open your case and point a fan into it ..


System seems to be running very cool, but I cant find a cpu temp man I can access....

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« Reply #10 on: April 24, 2006, 12:20:42 AM »
you can restart hold del key and check in the systems bios for temps  if you dont have a "probe " type temp monitor program .  also check your voltages too in the same way .
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« Reply #11 on: April 24, 2006, 12:51:55 AM »
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you can restart hold del key and check in the systems bios for temps  if you dont have a "probe " type temp monitor program .  also check your voltages too in the same way .


I ran the dianostics program the box came with (soso) and it did give me the MB ASUS amberine M. I googled it and found speedfan works with it so I downloaded it....

I'm not familiar with speedfan but it shows me 4 temps

CPU 43/44C
ambient 44C
Remote 58 (under AH goes to 72-74C)
HD0 41C
Temp1 40C

The box seems remarkably cool...air from CPU fan is very cool....no clue where the "remote" sensor is.....will try your suggestion as well

speedfan also reports voltages...

5V+ 0
Vcpu 1.12
Vcc 3.32
5V 5.12
12V 12.3
3V 3.33
Vbat 0.0

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« Reply #12 on: April 24, 2006, 01:02:52 AM »
Remote 58 (under AH goes to 72-74C)  

that one i dont under stand i wonder what its monitoring    is it a 64 bit cpu with a cooling bridge  ? if its a amd cpu 72c is too hot for cpu  .

the rest look good

in voltages these look ok

Vcpu 1.12
Vcc 3.32
5V 5.12
12V 12.3
3V 3.33    

the bat at 0 must be  non read part i think .


im gonna step out and suggest  a monitor swap with your old gamer  disregard if on same monitor ... and start digging in the dxdiag file for clues .. post it up or email it to  Skuzzy  ...  (scratches head still)
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« Reply #13 on: April 24, 2006, 08:46:22 AM »
is this a dual-core system? So far AH and dual-cores havn't played nice with each other. Just another thought thrown in.

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« Reply #14 on: April 24, 2006, 09:20:01 AM »
What video settings are you using in the game, and how much system RAM does your computer have, and what video card are you using?
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