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Offline Bruno

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« Reply #15 on: April 14, 2006, 10:53:51 PM »
I think it's a good idea all though I think Citabria's suggestion may prove more effective in the end...

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« Reply #16 on: April 15, 2006, 01:32:11 AM »
I think Fester might have a good idea, also. Not sure on the mechanics of it though. Just post a reply when they see the skinner show off the skin? Verify that it's authentic?

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« Reply #17 on: April 15, 2006, 06:58:54 AM »
If a hand full of players have that much control that may create some problems.  God forbid you piss one of them off there's gona be allot of Arss kissing too . Already is.  I'm not comfortable with the Idea of giving a player that much control over so many others. either we all should have a say or just leave it to the HTC guys   also most of the guys mentioned are Allied experts.
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« Reply #18 on: April 15, 2006, 08:34:54 AM »
The goal is to find a way to help expedite getting skins through the process.  One of the reasons I suggested this approach is due to the credibility many of the skinners have attained through thier work.  Also I have noted many skinners posting work, asking for critique, and taking said critique really well.  Of course, the critique is also done in a respectful manner.

I am intolerant of anyone coming into this forum and bashing a skinner's efforts.  Many of the skinners already post thier work before submission.  Adding that link to the info.txt file would go a long way to helping us get it through the process.

Picking only a couple of skinners to make comments, while on the surface sounds good, leaves out many who may have better information about the history of a skin.  I think the skinners all have a good idea of where thier expertise lies and only make commentary when they feel they can address the skin in question, with some level of authority of the history of the skin.
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« Reply #19 on: April 15, 2006, 01:07:46 PM »
Nr_RaVen,
Yes, everyone has a different take on the way things should be but you are still free to submit the skin to HTC.  If you post a screen shot and, for example, the entire community doesn't like the rivet size, you can either say they are right and make changes, or the rivet size is your artistic style and go ahead and submit the skin.  But if the entire community doesn't like the rivet size, is HTC going to?  I think HTC can make their own decisions, but answering those types of questions is your responsibility as the skinner.
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Not in favor of creating a team to say when a skin is ready for submission – takes too much power away from the skinner.  The skinner can decide after getting some feedback whether the skin is ready for submission.  Plus, I have a certain level of confidence in HTC professionalism that I don't have with the community as a whole.  It would be hard – if not impossible – to get a consensus on who should be on the team.  Better to just leave it up to the entire community and HTC.

I think what Skuzzy is getting at is the back-and-forth that goes on with a skin.  One person doesn't like the green of the anti-glare panel.  Someone else thinks the red noseband should go all the way around.  A skinner submits their skin only to notice something wrong (that would have been caught in a review) and immediately submits an update that Skuzzy would have to weed out.  All this back-and-forth would take a lot of work if done by emails between HTC and the skinner.  If the skin goes through a peer review first, only one skin gets submitted and should be ready for a "yes" or "no" vote from HTC.  HTC would not have to email the skinner and say they don't like the green on the anti-glare panel or the red noseband might need to go all the way around.  HTC would only need to email their answer.

A skinner could still bypass the peer review and submit their skin – there really is no way to stop them.  HTC could either review the skin themselves or, they could just set the policy that they will not look at a skin that does not have a link in the info.txt file.

Making a skin takes a lot of effort and the skin becomes your "baby."  It is hard to hear criticism about your "baby" but that is something you have to go through if you want to be a skinner.  And the feedback you get my just make your skin that much better.  So post the skin when you think it is ready to be presented to the world.

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« Reply #20 on: April 15, 2006, 01:27:35 PM »
Nicely said MachNix and pretty much hit the nail on the head with a little clarification.  We would not force any skinner to post the skin in this forum.  

However, if it was not posted in this forum it would get a lower priority over those who did post.  Simply for the time savings of being able to see what the skinners thought before the skin was submitted versus me scheduling time with Pyro and the art guys for them to stamp it.

Pyro has said, he would just rubber stamp a skin through the process if it were posted in this forum before submission and allowed the skinner community to pre-review it for historical accuracy.  Big time saver there.
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« Reply #21 on: April 15, 2006, 01:41:29 PM »
"Give the Guv'ner a harummph!....Wait...I didn't get a harrumph outta that guy!


I like the idea of the link in the info.txt and anything that has to do with rubber stamps. :D

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« Reply #22 on: May 08, 2006, 11:08:17 AM »
Bumpity
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