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Offline indy007

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« Reply #15 on: April 28, 2006, 09:52:07 AM »
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I saw on the news the other day that gas in china is a whopping $1.42


That's really, really high for them. At minimum wage here, people make around $870 or so monthly, before taxes. In some provinces of China, the minimum wage comes out to about $85/month. In the US it'd come out to 0.3% of a monthly minimum wage salary per gallon. In China, it'd come out to almost 1.7%

That's a big jump.
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« Reply #16 on: April 28, 2006, 09:58:41 AM »
Fishu - mora was right. I was talking about nuclear development, and was referring to this news story.
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Having taken fright after Chernobyl, Finland is set to increase the nuclear share of electricity supply from 26 per cent to 36 per cent.
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« Reply #17 on: April 28, 2006, 10:21:36 AM »
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That's really, really high for them. At minimum wage here, people make around $870 or so monthly, before taxes. In some provinces of China, the minimum wage comes out to about $85/month. In the US it'd come out to 0.3% of a monthly minimum wage salary per gallon. In China, it'd come out to almost 1.7%

That's a big jump.

Actually minimum wage in china is $0.00. And they have to work for one year to find out if they will be paid for it or not.

There is more civil unrest in china than there ever has been. Worker demonstrations in china, which are are quelled by violent police and union busters, have been increasing in number by something like 25% each year. In 2005 they had something like 80,000 public demonstrations.
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« Reply #18 on: April 28, 2006, 10:57:11 AM »
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I saw on the news the other day that gas in china is a whopping $1.42


In Venezuela it's only .12 cents a gallon.

I agree that China is the biggest threat the west has faced since the cold war.  It's economy is growing at an incredible rate but as always, fast growth comes with growing pains.  Economic growth means money for the people.  More money equals better education and higher standard of living.  The more the people are educated, the more they will pick up on western ideas and start to shy away from communism.

I think it's only a matter of time before China has a big cultural revolution and moves away from it's current government.  Whether they will own the west outright or wage war before that happens remains to be seen.
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« Reply #19 on: April 28, 2006, 11:03:54 AM »
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In Venezuela it's only .12 cents a gallon.

I agree that China is the biggest threat the west has faced since the cold war.  It's economy is growing at an incredible rate but as always, fast growth comes with growing pains.  Economic growth means money for the people.  More money equals better education and higher standard of living.  The more the people are educated, the more they will pick up on western ideas and start to shy away from communism.

I think it's only a matter of time before China has a big cultural revolution and moves away from it's current government.  Whether they will own the west outright or wage war before that happens remains to be seen.


Education has come to a complete halt in china. All education is now private and the only ones that can afford it are the party elite.

Education is now strictly censored and propogandized. A group of  undergraduate students in biejing were shown the world famous photo of tankman from the 1989 biejing uprising. None of them knew what it was.

China is turning from a workers paradise to a capitalists paradise.
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« Reply #20 on: April 28, 2006, 11:06:54 AM »
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we have no one to blame but ourselves ..

walk into any home and flip everything over and you'll see the root of the problem ..


Well, you can bully people into buying USA or we could actually produce a product the people will want to purchase at a price they will want to purchase at.

Damn simple....
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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2006, 11:11:02 AM »
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In Venezuela it's only .12 cents a gallon.
 
Full list from CNN

http://money.cnn.com/pf/features/lists/global_gasprices/



I think Lazs should move to Venezuela - cheap gas, guns allowed, Latina women - what more could he want!
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2006, 11:20:39 AM »
The economic war between China and the US has already been fought and won.
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« Reply #23 on: April 28, 2006, 11:22:38 AM »
Those crafty chinese.
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« Reply #24 on: April 28, 2006, 11:23:40 AM »
Global retailers do not fight against or for nations.
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« Reply #25 on: April 28, 2006, 11:31:00 AM »
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Well, you can bully people into buying USA or we could actually produce a product the people will want to purchase at a price they will want to purchase at.

Damn simple....


I am just stating a fact ...
Chinese products used to be crap, now they are just as good as anything else on the market in a similar price range & slightly more..
not sure if they went up or the rest went down, probably some of both
their cheap labor undercuts everyone else and now their demand for and willingness to pay top $$ for oil has driven up the value of it

like I said, we are all to blame
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« Reply #26 on: April 28, 2006, 11:45:28 AM »
Agreed!
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Offline Kaw1000

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« Reply #27 on: April 28, 2006, 12:42:54 PM »
Good posts guys never knew china was the way u all have stated it to be!!:aok
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« Reply #28 on: April 28, 2006, 12:56:43 PM »
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If you have time, watch 4,5 and 6.


http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tankman/view/



Interesting, thanks for the links.
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« Reply #29 on: April 28, 2006, 01:35:46 PM »
Wow, the PBS show says Yahoo and Cisco hand over information on Chinese people who break laws and dissidents to the Chinese government.


I am disgusted by this.

We and the west have sold our souls to china. We will pay for this in the future.
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