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Offline Alky

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« Reply #15 on: April 27, 2006, 04:27:59 PM »
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Its net lag! The target was warping all over the place!!! §$%&$§%/$%&/$%&/ cable pulling, cheating bullseye. DWEEEB get some SKILLZ!!!!! :mad: :furious

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« Reply #16 on: April 27, 2006, 04:28:30 PM »
Schatzi.... you're all theory and no practice! :D
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« Reply #17 on: April 27, 2006, 04:32:18 PM »
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Schatzi.... you're all theory and no practice! :D


Come to Berlin and ill show you some practice! :D
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« Reply #18 on: April 27, 2006, 04:59:26 PM »
:lol :rofl :rofl :lol




lol you guys are so good at hijacking all these threads, without even trying hehe.


and yup schatzi,

'Together spatially Poof, but not at the same time .'

i meant to say that :D

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« Reply #19 on: April 27, 2006, 07:30:48 PM »
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Come to Berlin and ill show you some practice! :D

There are probably several hundred people checking the airline schedules now.  

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« Reply #20 on: April 27, 2006, 10:30:51 PM »
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Schatzi, your gunnery really sucks! :D

Any hint about vertical convergence? I mean, when you have a mix of mg and cannons, how do you have to set convergence in order to make sure that bullets and shells hit in the same spot? Cannons convergence has to be set longer than mg?

Schatzi doesn't use cannons she uses them crappy 303.'s:p
But lets see if she can teach you the art of killing somone form 1k away with 303's i did it in a hurri1 i stalled and fored at a 38 spraying for the cockpit knew it was useless until....I see hit sprites ping him all over the cockpit then i got an assist :cry
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What utter and compete BS, quite frankly I should kick you off this bbs for this post.

The real truth is you do not like the answer.

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« Reply #21 on: April 28, 2006, 02:31:49 AM »
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There are probably several hundred people checking the airline schedules now.  

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:lol



If I say "The more, the merrier" now, itll probably get misinterpreted, right? :D  
THIS is what im talking about though.....
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« Reply #22 on: April 28, 2006, 05:40:23 AM »
It's not us misinterpreting what you say, it's you! You can't talk without innuendoes! Dirty minded!!!! :furious

Saskid, your signature is more and more funny! Wtg! :D
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« Reply #23 on: April 29, 2006, 02:01:15 PM »
bag is packed.see ya around noon.ein beer fraulien,bitte.lol.brick

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« Reply #24 on: April 29, 2006, 09:52:30 PM »
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Any hint about vertical convergence? I mean, when you have a mix of mg and cannons, how do you have to set convergence in order to make sure that bullets and shells hit in the same spot? Cannons convergence has to be set longer than mg?
You are refering to harmonic convergence.  The harmonic convergence automatically coincides with your convergence setting.  The problem is that on a moving target, the flight time to the target is generally going to be longer for cannon than it is for high velocity machine guns.  And generally speaking, MG's will reach the target before cannons.  In some situations that can cause the cannons to hit farther back on the target.

In many airframes this is irrelevent.  In many cases, pilots only fire both MG's and cannons in very selective instances, and rely on each weapon set individually for different circumstances.  What it comes down to is how you tend to use your guns in a specific airframe.  For instance, in the 38 I mainly use .50 cals, and only use cannons with .50's on 'sure shots'.  In that instance, I have the 20mms set about 200 yards farther out to adjust for the flight time difference.  No harm done in setting it that way because all the guns fire from the center line.  On the 109 with a centerline cannon, I usually also set those slightly longer.

In the spit, I use guns the opposite way, firing mainly with 20mm's and only using both on a 'sure shot'.  In that instance I leave convergence the same on both weapon sets.    

My point is that before changing your convergence on cannon, evaluate how you use cannon vs MG's in that particular plane, and also take into consideration how far off centerline the cannons are mounted.  In many cases the projectile 'flight time to target' dilema is low on the list of priorities...but in some instances, it is worth taking into consideration.

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« Reply #25 on: April 29, 2006, 10:36:06 PM »
Agreed Murdr, also from past test the 30 mm cannons drop a good bit , and the 20 mm cannons drop as well but not as drastic........

for  instance   some say that if you fly with centerline mounted guns ( cannons/mg's) you can set everything to say 200 400 or 600 it doesn't matter........

but  really if you test it you will see that at say P38 or a 109  or  C205 if you set both cannons and mg's to say 400 , the mg's will hit at 400 centerline/bullseye with the cannons having a slight drop.........30 mms will be even worse

set the cannons say 25 to 75 further out for convergence over the mg's and all will hit near bullseye togther......

do past search, I and 1 or 2 others tested this in alot of different plane types back in AH1,  with both wingmounted and center/nose/hub mounted guns. even with the  center firing weapons the convergence showed the vertical convergence did play a part in to where the shells would hit........under 250 was hardly any difference but the further out you set your convergence the more pronounced the difference showed up.......

when flying mixed bag of guns I prefer to set 20 mm guns 50 beyond my MG's

30mm  I set 75  past my mg's

but each of us have our own preference and  one must seek and find what they feel works best for them,

it really is all a matter of what works for you  and not what works for someone else

far as I know, nothing has changed in the way things converge in any patches or since AH2 has come out except that 1 patch where they worked on the FW and its dispersion /convergence factor....

1 thing, in my test I used SHIFT-X   when using the .target command  so I was flying on a set course unloaded  no G's to very minimal G less than 0.50+, not on auto pilot where I was pulling 1 or more G's
« Last Edit: April 29, 2006, 10:41:19 PM by TequilaChaser »
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« Reply #26 on: April 30, 2006, 07:19:10 AM »
Thanks for the info, Schatzi, Murdr and TC, it was all I needed to know. Beware of your 6 now, I'll be hitting harder! :)
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