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Offline Angus

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« Reply #165 on: May 14, 2006, 02:11:55 PM »
Why don't you take the shortcut and say "the US".

Use "ami" and many will assume you're a Fritz :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #166 on: May 14, 2006, 03:35:16 PM »
because 'Ami' is still faster...

My location shows 'Florida'.

There used to be a time where 'Luftwaffle' and 'Ami Farm boi' (or opportunist) were just friendly exchanges. Now with all the girly mean in game every one ends up 'insulted' and ranting about it on the forum. I used say 'Scheißefeuer' on channel one all the time, especially, when I got a Spitfire burning. Now that will get you muted at worst or at the very least some one will run to the forum and cry:

'Why is this guy refering to the Supermarine Spitfire as 'Scheißefeuer'..!

In this game all I fly is LW planes. When I say 'all' I mean only LW planes. I have been in this game since beta and there are planes in the set I have never even sat in offline and most likely wont ever... I haven't been in any of the Spits, I haven't been in P-38s etc...

Same in Il2 where there are 200 and some odd aircraft in game I have only sat in and or flown the LW set and not even all of those. We used joke about with each, and still do over in FB. Folks here just can't take it. IMHO there's nothing wrong with a little 'hate' between friends...

I am not a PC'r. If someone chooses to be insulted or make assumptions then so be it. I could careless about their 'feelings'. I aint Dr. Phil...

It appears that some folks just feign insult to garner attention for themsleves. I tried the 'kinder, gentler Wotan' a while back. It lasted about 2 days...
« Last Edit: May 14, 2006, 03:37:25 PM by Bruno »

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« Reply #167 on: May 14, 2006, 05:59:01 PM »
[/B][/QUOTE]It appears that some folks just feign insult to garner attention for themsleves. [/B][/QUOTE]

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« Reply #168 on: May 15, 2006, 03:34:38 AM »
Bruno. Only the LW rides are just a part of AH :D

In my case, I try them all. Favourites are Spits and 109's though.

The C.202 can also be a blast ;) And it has a DB and is Axis :D
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #169 on: May 15, 2006, 07:39:36 AM »
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Those who imply that I am some hater or that I insult all because I don't share your opinions are basically morons.


being civil negates the need to defend one's self.  calling others "morons," in some circles is considered being uncivil.

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« Reply #170 on: May 15, 2006, 07:59:25 AM »
What's with the one line / quote responses? I know what I wrote...

Quote where I said anything about being 'civil'. I could careless about 'civility'. What I am saying is some folks should butch up a little. None of them are made of glass and if they chose to 'get insulted' by a differing opinion then that's on them. I am not responsible for how they choose to feel.

Read that line you partially quoted again:

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Those who imply that I am some Ami hater or that I insult all Americans because I don't share your opinions are basically morons.


This is a general statement and it is left to the reader to decide for himself who those 'morons' are.

Also, if you are going to quote someone it's in bad form to edit what it is you are quoting.

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« Reply #171 on: May 15, 2006, 09:49:07 AM »
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chose to 'get insulted'


no one i have ever known nor i have ever selected freely and after consideration to become insulted.  

When someone bevhaves with pride or arrogance or treats treats another with insolence, indignity, or contempt, they were usually goaded.

the noun "moron" (a mildly mentally retarded person or a very stupid person) also usually does not aptly describe those i have insulted.

hap

also, my parents and grandparents and probably yours put a good deal of store by "civility."  my people referred to it as "manners."
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« Reply #172 on: May 15, 2006, 10:10:56 AM »
Safe to say the substantive part of this thread is over...

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... I could careless about 'civility'. What I am saying is some folks should butch up a little. None of them are made of glass and if they chose to 'get insulted' by a differing opinion then that's on them. I am not responsible for how they choose to feel. ...


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« Reply #173 on: May 15, 2006, 10:14:18 AM »
the allies were successful because they were civil?  :huh

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« Reply #174 on: May 15, 2006, 10:17:07 AM »
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no one i have ever known nor i have ever selected freely and after consideration to become insulted.


If I write:

'The bomber campaign wasn't decisive in determining the out come of WW2.'

And you reply with:

'I find your opinion insulting'

Then you have chosen to be insulted.

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When someone bevhaves with pride or arrogance or treats treats another with insolence, indignity, or contempt, they were usually goaded.


Nonsense, did your read Boxboy's original reply to me:

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Bruno I have a question for ya.

Why did Stalin DEMAND a second front at Yalta???

If what you espouse is all true he didn't need us at all and could have won the war without us and have "owned" all of Germany alone with no other "allie" to mess with.

The problem with your arguements is that "history" keeps getting in the way.


That reply came out of thin air. I hadn't said one thing to Boxboy before that.

He made snide remarks all on his own after choosing to be insulted by my opinion.

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the noun "moron" (a mildly mentally retarded person or a very stupid person) also usually does not aptly describe those i have insulted.


I know what 'moron' means. I chose that word specifically.

Please quote my 'insults'...

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also, my parents and grandparents and probably yours put a good deal of store by "civility." my people referred to it as "manners."


I don't care anything about your grandparents or their manners. If you go back and actually read the thread in context you will see that the 'insults' began with Boxboy. Any uncivil behavior that followed is a direct result of his 'poor manners'.

I give you credit for at least in attempting to put out a coherent post even though it fell well short of the mark...

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« Reply #175 on: May 15, 2006, 10:20:46 AM »
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Safe to say the substantive part of this thread is over...


That ended a page and a half ago...

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« Reply #176 on: May 15, 2006, 10:27:41 AM »
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Nonsense, did your read Boxboy's original reply to me:  That reply came out of thin air. I hadn't said one thing to Boxboy before that.


i erred.

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« Reply #177 on: May 16, 2006, 04:13:03 AM »
One second front has skipped this thread here mostly, when it comes to comparing contributions and sizes of the Allies in WW2.

That would of course be the Pacific.
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)

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« Reply #178 on: May 17, 2006, 10:12:40 AM »
I quickly scanned this thread and it seems that there has been no references to the best kept secret of the Allies and a true war winning advantage for them. No, it was not the P51 or stupidity of Hitler :)
I'm talking about the Ultra. In my opinion this gave the allies such an advantage that no number of u-boats, 109s or industrial capacity could have matched it.

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« Reply #179 on: May 17, 2006, 10:42:12 AM »
There was a flip side on that, - especially regarding the war with the U boats.
The Germans were also listening to  the Brits.....

None the less, Enigma, Ultra, and whatever the name was of the US codebreaking of the Japanese were quite important.

Good point Have :)
It was very interesting to carry out the flight trials at Rechlin with the Spitfire and the Hurricane. Both types are very simple to fly compared to our aircraft, and childishly easy to take-off and land. (Werner Mölders)