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DoKGonZo · « **Reply #30 on:** May 10, 2006, 04:06:17 PM »

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Originally posted by Urchin
A lot of us are ADHD kids (or not kids lol) and just like the fact that it IS so smushed together. When I want to fly, I can roll and be in a fight in 90 seconds.... I like that.

On the downside, I have noticed that a LOT of folks kinda just hang out around their bases, or the in massive clump of people in the lake. Only thing I don't like about the lake is the mobile AA bases upped by people who can't/won't fly.

I can see the value of something like FT.

But for me, personally, in its current for it ain't my cup of vodka. My frames go to hell and I can't hit a thing (esp. when 3 or 4 sets of B24's show up). The bases are always being vultched and bombed. And teamwork only exists between the veterans who are around you - everyone else is like something from a George Romero movie, looking for brains to eat.

Modas · « **Reply #31 on:** May 10, 2006, 04:16:35 PM »

I love FT the way it is.

I don't have to fly far to get a fight, which makes me more likely to take a plane I don't normally fly so I can learn it. Nothing like taking a plane that you are not familiar with, fly for 10 minutes to find a fight and get ho'd by a spit/la/niki driver.

Now, if I get shot down, I dont' care. I'm up and back in the fite in less than 2 minutes ready to learn from my mistakes. I also find that I'm probably more aggressive in FT than anywhere else because I know that if I screw up, (and I do, a lot!

) I'm back in the fite pretty quick.

I've been using the fu41 at FT, and yeah, I'm cherry picking a little bit, but as I get more comfortable in the beast, I'm finding myself in the weeds more and more.

People are going to fly the way they want. Take the fights as you can get them and don't complain. At least its not a 10 minute flight to get a fight.

my .02 worth

jaxxo · « **Reply #32 on:** May 10, 2006, 04:17:32 PM »

well I guess im just an old whiner but it doesnt change my opinion..yes i want everyone to use acms, and wingman tactics, and furball, twisting and turning and admiring the beauty of a dogfight..even if your in the tower with your heart thumping..so sue me...engaging one con and watching 15 others dive from 10k to pick me isnt my cup o tea..

Hoarach · « **Reply #33 on:** May 10, 2006, 05:02:16 PM »

I enjoy FT but its turning to a lot like a pickfest. I have had days where I get vulched 3 or 4 times just trying to up somehow and then get picked several times just getting to the fight. I have also had days where Ill get 11 kills in a 38 flying low on the deck or more. Need to have serious SA to be in FT or you are screwed. Its also kinda luck if you dont happen to get stupid and fly into a hoarde or just hanging with the hoarde just getting assists.

Bronk · « **Reply #34 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:40:35 PM »

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Originally posted by DoKGonZo
Sorry ... I ain't buying that argument ... (a) it's too easy a rationalization for something that is disdained everywhere else on the map and (b) the people doing it in FT for the most part really, really, really suck.

Dok not to be argumentative... The only way to stop the buffs is ... wait for it... kill the ords. The few times I few in FT I seen wave after wave of buffs.
Tell me Dok what should I have done.
1 attack buffs
2 Ignore em and hope the don't make it to hangers
3 be pro active and take down ords so i can have 15 min of peace to furball

Dok these seem to be the only choices.
Choice 1 problem : I'm not in FT to attack buffs I'm there to mix it up with other fighters.

Choice 2 problem : If all in FT take attitude in choice 1 problem hangers go down, no more FT

Choice 3 is the only viable option IMHO. If you Know a better way to overcome human nature please enlighten me.

Please note I'm not one of the "Furball or die" players.

Bronk

Morpheus · « **Reply #35 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:57:44 PM »

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Originally posted by jaxxo
well I guess im just an old whiner but it doesnt change my opinion..yes i want everyone to use acms, and wingman tactics, and furball, twisting and turning and admiring the beauty of a dogfight..even if your in the tower with your heart thumping..so sue me...engaging one con and watching 15 others dive from 10k to pick me isnt my cup o tea..

yep. And the later is all of what FT is about. FT is for da birds. But sometimes its the only action (if you can call it that) on the map.

Nomak · « **Reply #36 on:** May 10, 2006, 06:59:46 PM »

Sorry Jaxx..... Just takin a jab. You kinda left the door wide open.

FWIW I really dont care for FT. For all intents and purposes its the only good fight on the map. I dont like having only 1 furball to chose from. FesterMA is far superior IMO.

That being said..... When its up thats where I fly.

Dave

Brenjen · « **Reply #37 on:** May 10, 2006, 07:52:49 PM »

fester is my favorite map too. A little something for everyone without getting all jammed up.

DoKGonZo · « **Reply #38 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:02:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Bronk
Dok not to be argumentative... The only way to stop the buffs is ... wait for it... kill the ords. The few times I few in FT I seen wave after wave of buffs.
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I saw the same wave after wave. Of both bombers and porkers. One isn't any less annoying than the other to me for an area like FT.

But ... let's play Devil's Advocate a second ... suppose HT disabled bombers in FT. Do you think people would stop porking stuff there? I don't. It may diminish, but that's the most it'd do.

The "answer" is to try some new settings for the FT bases next time this map comes around and see how it goes. What's there now ain't working. And if some people whine then that they can't fly their La-7 in FT, too bad - they can fly it "from every other base on the map," to borrow from the "why bomb FT debates."

SirLoin · « **Reply #39 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:03:08 PM »

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Originally posted by Toad
I still have a great time in FT.

At least people come to fight.

Lots of opportunity to practice both offensive and defensive moves and ALWAYS a lot of shooting.

Beats heck out of the average night in the MA without FT.

At least I'm never bored in FT. I may be happy, sad or angry...but not bored. Can't say that about the MA without FT either.

To paraphrase, "Six bandits on your six is better than no bandits at all."

Hoarach · « **Reply #40 on:** May 10, 2006, 08:52:49 PM »

I ended up going rook tonight because knights wanted to take FT. Ran in over 15 boxes of buffs at 15k and then yelling to up goons to take the base. This is just irritating that there are many other bases that people have to bring in buffs to ruin others fun. Ended up knocking down 2 knight goons then dynamite killed their troops. So much for taking rook base.

hubsonfire · « **Reply #41 on:** May 10, 2006, 09:37:13 PM »

We can thank all the squeaky little generals for that incredibly lame but amusing attempt. As lame as FT has been lately (with wave after wave after wave of divebombing formations and vulching idiots), seeing the noobs trying to grief, and in turn being slaughtered warms my heart.

Bronk · « **Reply #42 on:** May 10, 2006, 09:40:56 PM »

Dok
I agree it needs diff settings. But until or if HT decides to try it with diff settings, do you see any other way ? I don't , so call me a pork dweeb or whatever but if I am in FT and I see buffs and goons.... You can bet I'll make a run to kill both.

Bronk

asilvia · « **Reply #43 on:** May 11, 2006, 12:51:52 AM »

Ok what exactly is considered cherry picking?????? When flying in FT I see a friendly with 1-3 enemy on thier 6, I call out a check 6 and tell them I am trying to come in. Normally I try to sideswipe the group and get them to break off the friendly and sometimes(use it loosly since I am still horrible at flying) get a kill. Is this considered cherry picking or helping out a friendly????

Shaky · « **Reply #44 on:** May 11, 2006, 11:31:32 AM »

Cherry picking,, according to some, is doing anything other than the low and slow yank and bank stuff.