Collision Model

[Brenjen]

I apologize to you people for having got it wrong

 Don't include me in that. You have no need to apologize to me for any reason. I took no offense. We all get confused by printed words, & the discussion about the collisions having to do with techie stuff it's even easier to get lost. Hey where am I?

[hubsonfire]

You ram, you take damage. You miss, you don't. How ****ing hard is that to understand?

[Stang]

Originally posted by ROC
Got orders to engage a 110...

You take orders in a game? lol.

[oneace]

Last week I was going into a HO and was careing a DT so I pulled up and dropped my DT just before he went under me and my DT hit and killed him.Has anyone had a DT to kill them?

[Hoarach]

Collision model isnt consisten though.  Sometimes I get rammed in the back I die and he flies off or get rammed in the back and he dies.  When I ram someone in the back I sometimes die or vise versa.  The big problem with it, that its not consistent.  Ive noticed some people purposely fly up into you just to ram and usually I die to this.

[GrimCO]

Well, I'm not sure how it works, because I normally don't pester HiTech for answers that I probably would not understand in the first place. I also don't make a habit of being a complainer and stirring the pot. I guess the only reason I got annoyed (and truth be told that's all it really was), was due to several instances of me having nothing to do with a collision and dying because of it. Last night I was landed on the runway with my tail facing an LA7 who attempted to vulch me, but ran into me instead. It said that I collided with him, and I subsequently died...LOL

Collisions during a dogfight happen, and normally I take the stance that it was my fault for allowing the other individual to get so close to me. If he rammed me, he had a pretty fair chance of getting a shot on me anyway. I was just befuddled as to how I collided with someone when my tail was facing him and I was stopped on a runway... LOL  ?????  I guess my computer decided that I don't clean the keyboard often enough and decided to exact some revenge, which I considered to be rather distasteful on my computer's part :-)

[Brenjen]

He was firing when he hit you. That (the gunfire) is what killed you, the text just informed you that your PC had determined you & he were in the same place @ the same time, hence the message. Here is one link that is a good read:

http://www.rdrop.com/users/hoofj/netlag.htm

 I would post specific links to threads on these boards but for some reason the complete link won't show up in my address bar for AH forums individual threads.Just do a search for "collision" & you'll get a somewhat fair picture of whats going on.

[Dead Man Flying]

Originally posted by Stang
You take orders in a game? lol.

Shut up and get me a beer, slacker.

-- Todd/Leviathn

[FiLtH]

ROC  I was on the runway just starting to roll when a guy vulches me from 6 oclock. He hits me, and it says I collided. Sometimes it works, most times it doesnt.

[hubsonfire]

I've had that happen too, and I hate it, but I understand that with the delay inherent in online gaming, my PC decides that he and I are occupying the same space at the same time, hence a collision message. He may have passed, on his front end, just past my nose, but in the time it takes to xmit the data and crunch the numbers, the relative positions have changed just enough to trigger the message. It doesn't always address every situation in a way that makes obvious sense (ie telling you you rammed someone while sitting still), it still works as well as is possible.

[E25280]

I had a good film from a while ago that shows why collisions happen only on one front end, and how you may have seen his plane fly through your plane (hence "you have collided") when on his front end he was no where near your plane and thus did not collide or receive damage.

In the AvA during the Pacific set, I landed a zeke on the deck of a carrier, and a squaddie landed shortly thereafter.  While I waited for the reload, I look to my right, and squaddie is sitting there, a few hundred feet off to my right, hovering in mid air.

I asked him what he was doing, and he said re-arming.  I asked where he was, he said right on top of me.  I was laughing, and started filming.

His plane starts slowly side-slipping my way as I am watching.  It eventually makes it to the carrier (remember, on his front end, he is already on the carrier, and had we been enemies, he would have received the "you have collided" message because he is right on top of me).  He gets close enough to where our planes almost touch.

Suddenly, I drop through the darn CV deck, and "crash".

Interesting thing, in reality we were both lagging or something.  In the film, BOTH OF US are off the carrier, sitting in mid air as happy as can be -- for a good 2 mins if I remember correctly.  And at no point did he and I have the same perception of where the other one was.

So again, you get damaged and die because your computer decided you were both in the same place at the same time.  His computer may believe something VERY different.

[GrimCO]

Give me my moment of self pity damnit!  My computer has it in for me, and that's the bottom line! LOL

[ROC]

You take orders in a game? lol.

See, this is how it works, I make a committment to a squad.  Purely by choice. When we fly squad night, we have a chain of command, it's what we sign on for, it's what we agree too, it's what we do.

Sort of like Scenarios, which I am a firm believer in (imagine that)

So yes, I do. This is how I chose to enjoy my game.  Sometimes I make the flights and orders, sometimes someone else does, sometimes it's a free for all.

So, was there a point to your post or just just trying to see if you got a clever atta boy for your skill and wit?  

[Mano]

Greetings Grim

I didn't know ya moved over to AH.
The Arena is busy every night in here........well.........actu ally it is busy all the time.

[68Ripper]

Originally posted by ROC
See, this is how it works, I make a committment to a squad.  Purely by choice. When we fly squad night, we have a chain of command, it's what we sign on for, it's what we agree too, it's what we do.

Sort of like Scenarios, which I am a firm believer in (imagine that)

So yes, I do. This is how I chose to enjoy my game.  Sometimes I make the flights and orders, sometimes someone else does, sometimes it's a free for all.

So, was there a point to your post or just just trying to see if you got a clever atta boy for your skill and wit?  

I enjoy being in a squad, but to have someone barking orders to me? I don't think so, I was in a squad like that before, but never again. If someone in squad ASKS for my help I'm willing to give it, or if I see they need help I'll be there for them.

But to each his own.