Author Topic: Plead to Htc Perk these planes (Read 3447 times)

Pooface · « **Reply #60 on:** May 11, 2006, 08:09:03 AM »

fair do's bighorn. i'd agree that it is heavily used and that it is fairly uber, but the general skill level of the guys that fly them means that they arent a massive threat. personally i dont see a big reason to perk it ust because of high usage, as the dweebs would all move into the next suitably uber ride. i think a plane should only ever really be perked for rarity/extreme speed, unless extreme curcumstances say otherwise.

until it gets really bad i think perking the 16 wouldnt be a great idea

Brenjen · « **Reply #61 on:** May 11, 2006, 08:47:53 AM »

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I guess if i can't beat em i should putz around in my la or spitfire

I happen to like the spitfire. The Spit-14 is my favorite, followed closely by the Seafire. I don't like to spend perks, so it's a rare occasion you will see me in a perked ride. That being said, what's wrong with flying Spitfires? Or La's for that matter. I see more LA-7's than anything else unless there is a CV around, but so what?

I was coming in from a CV in a D-hog heavy yesterday, trying to get alt. to drop my ords in an attempt to get a GV base near the coast, the CV was close in so I was trying to get my alt. on wep pulling near a stall. I look above me & see a P-51 so I level off to get some speed. I see him invert & tip his wing to drop in on me so I flip over into a shallow dive & dump my ords. He was on me so fast I didn't build up much speed & was forced close to the deck within seconds, my two or three jinks left me with no E at all turning with flaps trying to avoid him. - I died.

I upped again in a seafire & promptly ran into an La-7 with alt. & speed. This time I out turned him, got him low & I was in his six about 800 out with him extending (apparently) on wep. He was slowly gaining distance when I saw a squaddie of mine in trouble with a 190; I asked him if he needed a hand, he said yes, & I broke off to help him out. After the 190 got my partner & I got the 190; I look back to see tracers & the La 200 off my six. - I died.

Both instances were all my fault & it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were flying those planes after paying the few perks they would cost when they killed me. I mean, really unless HT perked them like a 262, you'll still see them by the bucket full. The only difference is they won't be flown by the innocent new guy who you have a good chance of killing.

soupcan · « **Reply #62 on:** May 11, 2006, 08:58:16 AM »

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Originally posted by hubsonfire
Ledpig, to boil this down, you chose to fly a certain plane, and all those other guys also chose to fly certain planes. What you're saying is that all those other guys should have to fly something else, because you think they should.

How exactly does one rationalize that logic?

i couldn't agree more hubs! well said.

Dead Man Flying · « **Reply #63 on:** May 11, 2006, 08:58:28 AM »

Here's a remarkable new concept to try wrapping your minds around: worry less about what other people fly and more about what you fly. If you don't enjoy the game because others enjoy flying a certain type of plane, deal with it and stop trying to legislate choice. Whose fault is it if you lack the skill to fly whatever plane you enjoy against whatever plane others enjoy?

-- Todd/Leviathn

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #64 on:** May 11, 2006, 09:36:54 AM »

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Originally posted by LEDPIG
I agree with Urchin on the previous comments i think theres a preponderance of newbs who don't want to fly anything different from a spit or La because their easier furballing planes. I don't like flying them to much because their use is so much of a no-brainer that i get bored with them. At least when flying some of the more difficult types you have think how your going to use it against these disimiliar planes and use your advantage to win. The employing of tactics nessessary in flying a 47, 38, fw-190 or something makes them more fun for me than just mindless furballing in a spitfire.

So what if flying a Spitfire is boring to you?

The question should be, do any of these games effect the game balance in a negative way? And the simple answer is no they don't.

ack-ack

Urchin · « **Reply #65 on:** May 11, 2006, 09:51:08 AM »

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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Here's a remarkable new concept to try wrapping your minds around: worry less about what other people fly and more about what you fly. If you don't enjoy the game because others enjoy flying a certain type of plane, deal with it and stop trying to legislate choice. Whose fault is it if you lack the skill to fly whatever plane you enjoy against whatever plane others enjoy?

-- Todd/Leviathn

Think thats being a little harsh, unless you are basically saying "Gee, retards, stop handicapping yourselves and jump in an EL gay or Spit like everyone else."

Sometimes I feel like that.

Ack-Ack · « **Reply #66 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:01:48 AM »

It wasn't harsh I don't think but rather straight to the point and Levi is right. If LEPIG would spend more time learning how to fight in the plane of his choice and not worry what the other guy is flying, he'll have far more enjoyment of the game. Basically, LEPIG wants to perk the planes he can't fight against.

ack-ack

NoBaddy · « **Reply #67 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:15:03 AM »

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Originally posted by LEDPIG
T I guess in a few years the game will be an all spitfire simulator like falcon 4, it'll be nothing but spits and la's and a bunch of guys flying around in those manueverable little easy rides that are easy to master as soon as you jump into the game.

...and noobs wonder why old timers give them so much grief in here.

mars01 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:31:46 AM »

Is it me or does Ledpig remind anyone of Zazen??? LOLH:D

Let the noobs fly what they want. The only time things get to be a problem is when you are on a map without a FT and all you run into are dweebs that run.

LOLH

SlapShot · « **Reply #69 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:39:30 AM »

I was coming in from a CV in a D-hog heavy yesterday, trying to get alt. to drop my ords in an attempt to get a GV base near the coast, the CV was close in so I was trying to get my alt. on wep pulling near a stall. I look above me & see a P-51 so I level off to get some speed. I see him invert & tip his wing to drop in on me so I flip over into a shallow dive & dump my ords. He was on me so fast I didn't build up much speed & was forced close to the deck within seconds, my two or three jinks left me with no E at all turning with flaps trying to avoid him. - I died.

If I was in an FM2, P38-J, P-47-D11, P-40, F6-F, Hurri II, Hurri I, A6m2B, F4-U-1, D3A, C205, Ki-61 ... u would have died just the same.

I upped again in a seafire & promptly ran into an La-7 with alt. & speed. This time I out turned him, got him low & I was in his six about 800 out with him extending (apparently) on wep. He was slowly gaining distance when I saw a squaddie of mine in trouble with a 190; I asked him if he needed a hand, he said yes, & I broke off to help him out. After the 190 got my partner & I got the 190; I look back to see tracers & the La 200 off my six. - I died.

Want the truth ... in this sortie ... your SA sucked and thats what killed you ... not the La-7 ... it could have been a ... FM2, P38-J, P-47-D11, P-40, F6-F, Hurri II, Hurri I, A6m2B, F4-U-1, D3A, C205, Ki-61 ... u would have died just the same.

Both instances were all my fault & it wouldn't have mattered to me if they were flying those planes after paying the few perks they would cost when they killed me.

Glad you realize that it was your fault ... so basically, your reasons for wanting to perk certain planes is moot for the reasons that I gave above ... u would have died just the same, regardless of what the other guy was flying.

So you want to get a warm fuzzy feeling when dieing, due to the fact that you died to a "perk" plane ... and ignoring the reality that you might have died cause the other guy is better than you or you need further improvement.

SlapShot · « **Reply #70 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:52:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Ack-Ack
It wasn't harsh I don't think but rather straight to the point and Levi is right. If LEPIG would spend more time learning how to fight in the plane of his choice and not worry what the other guy is flying, he'll have far more enjoyment of the game. Basically, LEPIG wants to perk the planes he can't fight against.

ack-ack

Exactly !!!

For example ... let's take a high ENY plane and a pilot ... the P-47.

YUCCA, for all intents and purposes, flys the Jug exclusively, and is extremely dangerous, deadly, and successful in the Jug ... against any plane.

Never have I seen him come in here and piss and moan about what other people fly ... and poor him in is big fat Jug.

This is probably due to the fact that he has worked his bellybutton off learning the Jug and what it can do, and at the same time learning what the the other planes can't do.

I know this is novel concept for most in the MA ... they would rather come in here a piss and moan and plead for perking.

I could care less what you fly ... just as long as you FIGHT in it ... kill me ... big fuggin deal ... I have a new plane waiting for me in the hanger ... right next to Guppy's new plane ...

MonsterO · « **Reply #71 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:54:06 AM »

Anyone remember when ht limit planesets on fester's map? Wow what a rush, I have never had so much fun playing on furball island. No buffs to kill gv's and everyone flying 1941-2 planeset. Everyone warping 1k away from each other and not complaining :> Warping because of the great gv battles you witness from the low alt dogfighting.

In my perfect picture of AHII, I would be allowed to play this type of setup on every map.

Simaril · « **Reply #72 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:56:58 AM »

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Originally posted by MonsterO
Anyone remember when ht limit planesets on fester's map? Wow what a rush, I have never had so much fun playing on furball island. No buffs to kill gv's and everyone flying 1941-2 planeset. Everyone warping 1k away from each other and not complaining :> Warping because of the great gv battles you witness from the low alt dogfighting.

In my perfect picture of AHII, I would be allowed to play this type of setup on every map.

Yeah, but 10 minutes after the regular arena opened the limited one was empty. People vote with their feet, and even though I wish I could have fought that day (WORK....ugh) most everyone seemed to think the current MA was better.

Sigh.

Bronk · « **Reply #73 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:57:59 AM »

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Originally posted by straffo
I've just watched ledpig stats ... it's obvious his problems are not perk related.

I will make one recommendation to ledpig after looking at his stats.
Led go to the TA and ask for some help. This is not meant as a put down, but there is something fundamentally wrong . I am by no means an upper echelon AH pilot. But i am willing to bet you have some basic flaws that trainers will spot and help you correct.

Please take this in the spirit intended.

Bronk

MonsterO · « **Reply #74 on:** May 11, 2006, 10:59:57 AM »

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Originally posted by Simaril
Yeah, but 10 minutes after the regular arena opened the limited one was empty. People vote with their feet, and even though I wish I could have fought that day (WORK....ugh) most everyone seemed to think the current MA was better.

Sigh.

It was not limited, only on fester's map on furball island. I most of played over 10 hours that day:>