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Allied Mission #4 Thurs. 5-11-06 9pm et
« on: May 10, 2006, 01:58:08 PM »


  Bomber,Escort,and Intercept leaders will be needed. Please volunteer.

Everyone is welcome...just come in before mission launches and grab a slot in the mission. Axis guys usually have a guy willing to make an intercept mission too.
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« Reply #1 on: May 10, 2006, 02:36:55 PM »
FINALLY!! Thursdays my last day off this week, I was starting to worry I would miss out. :)

BTW- I think we'll have the G14 too :t

Edit- Just checked the MOTD, not til saturday :cry
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« Reply #2 on: May 10, 2006, 05:13:52 PM »
LOLOL. nice foot note Filth...
I swear that I wasnt over the line when I engaged that last set of B-26s. :p :t

Ya know, its just like F-86s NEVER chasing Migs past the Yalu River :aok ;)
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Allied Mission #4 Thurs. 5-11-06 9pm et
« Reply #3 on: May 10, 2006, 06:10:34 PM »
Anyone noticed that the Axis flyers who dont read the BB never believe us when we tell them about the breakoff line?
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« Reply #4 on: May 10, 2006, 08:41:33 PM »
What I find amazing is how many actually wait for the intercept point and honor the line.  Its a good reflection of the players I think who have the discipline to wait, or release. Good guys to play with.
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               I thought I added this to the above post but apparantly it didnt take. We will use this technique for our bomb drops. When I make the mission I will have 4 bomber flights in it. Each will have a name, red,blue,green,or gold. All bombs will be released on the target in one pass. Time them to cause as much damage as possible.
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« Reply #5 on: May 10, 2006, 08:44:21 PM »
I'm tempted to grab a P-38 for this one...

UGHH, the agony!

I don't know what to do!!!
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« Reply #6 on: May 11, 2006, 09:38:32 AM »
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I'm tempted to grab a P-38 for this one...

UGHH, the agony!

I don't know what to do!!!


Don't do it white ! Plat will have you over the coals lol Anyway i like flying  and dying to  you Grupul boys so don't go spoiling my fun lol
Hey ! Tell plat he better not be lurkin at 28k again just waiting for me too...
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PS reading a book called "Mustang Ace" right now, Turns out a romanian fighter pilot called Captain Constanzio (or something) arranged for the escape of hundreds of Allied prisoners from romania, very interesting..

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« Reply #7 on: May 11, 2006, 12:57:50 PM »
http://www.elknet.pl/acestory/cantacuzino/cantacuzino.htm

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Don't do it white ! Plat will have you over the coals lol Anyway i like flying and dying to you Grupul boys so don't go spoiling my fun lol


But its the 38J :cry :( :cry
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« Reply #8 on: May 11, 2006, 03:17:35 PM »
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Don't do it white ! Plat will have you over the coals lol Anyway i like flying  and dying to  you Grupul boys so don't go spoiling my fun lol
Hey ! Tell plat he better not be lurkin at 28k again just waiting




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« Reply #9 on: May 11, 2006, 03:42:53 PM »
Filth, looks good.  I haven't played much lately, but I'll try to participate.  By the way, I have a suggestion for future bomber events.  In addition to the engagement line over the channel (there presumably to simulate the constraints faced by the LW in real life), you might consider putting a no-engagement zone around the target.  This would be a circle of, say, 5 miles in radius, that represents the flak envelope around the target.

In real life, the LW fighters didn't follow the bombers into this zone, because flak was indescriminant about what it hits.  Of course, in AH this is the best time to attack a buff, because the player is the gunner and the bombardier (can't do both at the same time).  However, this does not match real life, so if the AH map target has flak covering it (which cities do), the LW players should break off and stay outside this no-engagement zone.  While it is sometimes easy for the intercepting pilots to loose track of where they are when hunting the buffs, the puffy flak engaging the bombers should certainly remind them to break off.
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« Reply #10 on: May 11, 2006, 04:19:53 PM »
Puffy flak in AvA settings is just as indescriminate- and its useless either way up that high. I've been hit by "friendly" flak on attack runs a few times. Yet to see a bomber even smoking from a flak hit on any of these missions.
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« Reply #11 on: May 11, 2006, 06:21:43 PM »
I agree it would be cool, but probably it would require a Special Events Arena setup. Im not sure but I think the ack can be set to hurt both. Not real sure though. Actually I dont really know at all. Just wishful thinkin I guess :P But if it could be set to hurt both, and be more lethal, it would be easier to do that than to try to enforce an area the enemy has to stay out of over their own country.

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« Reply #12 on: May 11, 2006, 07:22:45 PM »
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Yeah, yeah, If I see a G6/14 lurking at 28k and trying to swoop down, I'll know who it is...., you have been warned young skywalker:D
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« Reply #13 on: May 11, 2006, 09:52:49 PM »


     Although we looked great going to target, and our escort and gunnery performed well, the axis seemed to attack endlessly into our formation. Out of 15 B17s that left England, all but 6 were dead before reaching the continent. Out of those only 2 made it to target. Softtail got 4 kills and 15 bldgs plus assists!  He is hereby awarded the Silver Star!  I made it to target but only took out a QuikeeMart, and 1 kill. I'll give myself an Air Medal just for gettin there :)

   Once again it was the Road to Rouen...or Ruin...which seems more fitting.
HQ expected losses, but a greater return as the town was only reduced to 85%. Not the required 10%. They are already planning another raid on the same target for Sunday night. The P38J was not well recieived by many pilots for the escort role.The P51B seemed better suited, and hopefully the D model will be operational soon. However, now that the bombsights have had better lenses installed, and all the bombers now have adequate heaters, the mission will be 25,000-27,000ft. It is hoped this will provide an advantage over the new 190A8. It was a devastating weapon that cant be allowed to roam free. The bomber crews need it. The morale cant take too many defeats like that :)

WTG ALL!  See ya Sunday night!  Look for Allied Mission 5 on this forum
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« Reply #14 on: May 11, 2006, 10:13:03 PM »
P-38s might have been more effective if we had had more of us (I think was just 2 of us by engagement time) and if there hadn't been such a distance between our patrol height (28-30K) and the buffs mission altitude (17-18K). At that altitude we were compressing in level flight, and by the time we dove down on the 190s we were so far back (or took so long to pull up onto them) that they could get a bomber or 2 and run for it. The buffs gunners accounted for more Germans than the escorts did.



I got the first 110, which I met co-alt at 31,000 feet, but then overshot several 190s badly trying to cut them off from the bombers. Was forced to watch from a distance as the B-17s went down in flames, several times seeing 2 or 3 falling at once. While trying to cut inside the last 190 I engaged- and was about to kill- I was bounced by another 190 that nobody apparently saw (somehow? :huh ), and I got the first check 6 warning just as the 20mm shells started to slam home. Was forced to bale out, thankfully I landed far enough inland- but well away from any German bases- and I was picked up by the resistance, and will survive to fight another day. Unfortunately I can not say the same for the brave crews of the B-17s we were tasked to escort, as none of them made it home. An especially sad day for the 8th AAF.

to all the LW pilots involved, excellent shooting and well done!
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