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Offline Treize69

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2006, 05:10:09 PM »
Bf109K4- worlds most powerful strapon. :t
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2006, 09:44:50 PM »
Treize69, your avatar gives me a headache...
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2006, 10:16:27 PM »
Ive gotten more comments on that picture...
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Offline Whisky58

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2006, 03:25:23 AM »
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At least that is how I see it, your opinion is your own, and I'll not be the one to tell you you aren't entitled to it.


Well that's very magnanimous of you, sir.  You're a gentleman  :D

However, you're telling us that the Ki84 is a competitive ride - nobody's disputing that.

What Hawco said in his original post was he wanted suggestions for a challenging ride, not a competitive ride.  He wants something to make him work which gets sweet after you stick it out.  The 190a5 fits that bill.

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« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2006, 07:26:05 AM »
If you really want a challenge, there isn't a plane in the set that can't be flown successfully. IF you take the time to set it up right, and fly it to its strengths.

If schatzi can get kills in her hurri Mk 1, you can get a kill in anything!
Yes even the val.  You just have to think ahead, setup a fight you can win.

Buddy of mine named Ozark used to take the val up on Pizza map. Go over a V field in the canyons & loiter. Eventually a La7 or some such would show up.

Couple of pings with the val's pop guns then he'd fly them into a wall.

BANG, you just shot down a la7 with a flippin VAL!


Yak9's are a blast, take a bit lighter hand on the stick than a spitfire.
But fun to fly and rewarding as heck.  Still possibly the most underflown plane in AH.

109's well you have enough material there to keep you busy for a year.

205 is another real challenge to survive in the main. Poor visibility, but fair gas & good ammo load.
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Offline Urchin

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« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2006, 11:18:39 AM »
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At least that is how I see it, your opinion is your own, and I'll not be the one to tell you you aren't entitled to it.


Well that's very magnanimous of you, sir.  You're a gentleman  :D

However, you're telling us that the Ki84 is a competitive ride - nobody's disputing that.

What Hawco said in his original post was he wanted suggestions for a challenging ride, not a competitive ride.  He wants something to make him work which gets sweet after you stick it out.  The 190a5 fits that bill.

Regards [/B]


Well, it depends on your definitions of competitive and challenging I suppose.  The Ki-84 is not one of the "uber rides", but it performs well enough that an average pilot can have fun in it without handicapping himself to badly.

I actually think I disagree that the 190a5 "gets sweet if you stick it out"... it really isn't a very good plane in my opinion.  I fly it anyway, just like I fly the 109s, but judging them dispassionately I'd say the K4 and D9 rate as 2nd tier, with the rest being third tier at best.

It really doesn't matter how "good" you are... you can only do what the plane will let you do.  If you are sitting in a 190a5, the first spit 16 you run across has a roughly 50% chance to kill you ("pilot skill" notwithstanding), and you will almost certainly die in the 2-3-X on 1 environment of the MA (simply because the a5 cannot outfight the Spit/nik, nor outrun/outfight the La7).  The Ki-84 at least gives you the opportunity to fight the spits/niks on somewhat even ground, even if you still cant outrun the la7s.

So for me, I guess a "challenging" plane is one is that is competitive without being the "best".  So I'd consider the 2nd tier planes to be "challenging", and I'd recommend staying out of the rest unless you simply love the plane or love dying.
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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2006, 01:04:52 PM »
Fly the p38, its a huge target but she can sing...:t
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« Reply #22 on: May 13, 2006, 02:22:27 PM »
She sings great as those 30mm taters smash into her.

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« Reply #23 on: May 13, 2006, 02:44:07 PM »
38......too many underestimate it.

And stang.....I enjoy seeing 109s get their wings blown off, tails torn off, and personally seeing the wing blown off and the 109 spiraling on fire into the dark blue water before the hands of a 38. :t
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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #24 on: May 13, 2006, 03:44:37 PM »
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38......too many underestimate it.

And stang.....I enjoy seeing 109s get their wings blown off, tails torn off, and personally seeing the wing blown off and the 109 spiraling on fire into the dark blue water before the hands of a 38. :t


I like the P-38s. Especially the P-38G. However, there are several fighters that will completely dominate the P-38s. Since the 109 has been mentioned, I would avoid 109F-4s like the plague. Also a serious threat is the 109G-2. With the current flap bug limiting the Lightning, the G-2 will beat them most of the time.

Now, when the flap bug is fixed, things will be somewhat different. Except Vs the 109F-4. However, I have doubts that the 109F-4 will remain as it is after the next update as I'm sure the drag model will receive a general tweaking.

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« Reply #25 on: May 13, 2006, 05:28:21 PM »
F4U-1 is a sweet ride once mastered. im just now (after 3 years) getting used to the 109's, i like em though.
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« Reply #26 on: May 14, 2006, 02:49:40 PM »
FW 190 A8 could be a challenge, although it was a common late war German fighter and it is more on par with late war allied aircraft.  :D

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Offline Lazerr

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« Reply #27 on: May 15, 2006, 10:54:34 PM »
p38G and the f4 would be a long fight...
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Offline Widewing

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« Reply #28 on: May 16, 2006, 12:47:00 AM »
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p38G and the f4 would be a long fight...


Not anymore... 2.07 shifted the entire paradigm.

I've had many duels with Airvent/Infensus/Bighorn flying 109F Vs the P-38G. Those were long fights and the P-38G probably won more than it lost. But not now, the combination of the newly uber 109F and the P-38 flap bug has made this a very one-sided fight. We'll see what the bug fix accomplishes, plus I anticipate a further tweaking of the drag model at the next update.

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Offline Pooh21

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« Reply #29 on: May 16, 2006, 12:48:45 AM »
Bf-110g2. The cannons alone are like the smiting hand of the almighty, the 110s only con is, if you want to shoot chutes in front you have to use cannons.
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