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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: May 11, 2006, 05:50:36 PM »
If he used the meat, was he not hunting for food?

You seem to want to judge his intent. If he intended to hunt and kill for the enjoyment of the hunt is he somehow less in your eyes? Even if he eats the resulting food from the hunt?

Why do people fish for Halibut? A good sized Halibut provides more fish flesh than that average family normally consumes in two or three years. Are these Halibut fishermen evil as well?
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« Reply #16 on: May 11, 2006, 05:56:06 PM »
Toad, I think killing animals for fun is wrong.  It is my opinion.  This guy paid $50,000 to go kill polar bears for fun.  If he ate the meat he probably did so merely for the experience.  I highly doubt he is a regular consumer of polar bears.
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« Reply #17 on: May 11, 2006, 05:56:16 PM »
Obviously Curval has missed the Colbert Report's Threatdown....


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« Reply #18 on: May 11, 2006, 06:27:07 PM »
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Toad, I think killing animals for fun is wrong.  It is my opinion.  This guy paid $50,000 to go kill polar bears for fun.  If he ate the meat he probably did so merely for the experience.  I highly doubt he is a regular consumer of polar bears.


 I doubt any non-Native North American is a regular consumer of polar bear meat.

Polar bear hunting is highly regulated and limited.

So is it wrong for me to take the Labs and go pheasant hunting? We go because it's fun; as I said, I could buy bland chicken at the market and subsist.
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« Reply #19 on: May 11, 2006, 06:32:18 PM »
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Toad asked; Why do people fish for Halibut?

For the Halibut?
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« Reply #20 on: May 11, 2006, 06:42:11 PM »
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Btw, I hunt pheasant primarily because I enjoy the challenges it presents; the food value is just an added bonus. I could, obviously, buy bland chicken at the supermarket to fill the larder.
 



You're probabbly better off eating that wild pheasant then eating the chiken from the supermarket which was raised in captivity and stuffed with all sorts of proteins and hormones during its entire life.  

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« Reply #21 on: May 11, 2006, 06:47:20 PM »
Sure... but doesn't the fact that I enjoy the hunt make me Dr. Evil?
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« Reply #22 on: May 11, 2006, 06:51:22 PM »
Polar bear hunting is regulated by how many $$ you want to spend to kill one.  This bear was killed as a "trophy"...read the articles.

They are a species headed for trouble. We don't need to be killing them for "sport".  They are dying quickly enough on thier own thanks.

I have had a few experiences with these bears. They are the top predator in thier environment (except for us humans).

As far as "the two most aggressive Carnivores"..well.......I beg to differ.  I have never had a problem with a Grizzly, and have seen more of them than you could possibly fathom. (bears by nature are omnivores btw)

Your basic black bear can be much more aggressive and unpredictable in my experience.  My experience with Grizzlies tends to lead me to believe that in general, they would rather get away from you.

 I have had a couple of run-ins with polar bears (close calls), but they were entirely my own fault.

Polar bears, well..you are really just food to them, they don't seem to make much of a distinction between seal and "long pig". If it moves it must be food. Not really aggression, more like a smorgasbord.

Just as a point of interest, the most aggressive critter I have ever seen has to be the wolverine. These things are true "land sharks", and have a nice even temper (all mean and nasty, all the time).


So, there ya have it..RTR's picks for most aggressive Critters. Wolverines and Black bears.

Now, lets leave the Polar bears AND the Grizzlies alone. They have it tough enough as is.

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« Reply #23 on: May 11, 2006, 07:06:38 PM »
Norway has had a complete ban on polar bear hunting. USA, Greenland and Russia allow hunting by the indigenous people.

Funny that only Canada issues recreational licenses if they are truly endangered, don't you think?

IIRC, they're listed as "protected" and recreational licenses are limited. Something like 10% of all licenses issued in Canada go to recreational applicants.


Would I personally hunt one? Nope. Doesn't really appeal to me.

But I do kill pheasant with the Labs and we have fun doing it.




I guess I'm not evil enough to hire assassins to kill ALL my food for me though.
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« Reply #24 on: May 11, 2006, 07:08:23 PM »
Toad, nothing wrong with hunting for the meat. Problem is, there's not much usable on a Polar Bear.
Due to thier diet, (lots of seal blubber etc.) they have pretty high levels of vitamin A in them. In fact there can be toxic levels of vitamin A in polar bear liver.

And, there are alot of us up here who want them protected as well.

just FYI.

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« Reply #25 on: May 11, 2006, 07:13:03 PM »
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no bear kills for fun lasersailor

if that makes it the most aggressive one then we are ok


I'll bet the one who killed "Grizzly Man" had some fun.  That guy was a complete whacko.
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« Reply #26 on: May 11, 2006, 07:20:23 PM »
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So is it wrong for me to take the Labs and go pheasant hunting? We go because it's fun; as I said, I could buy bland chicken at the market and subsist.


Is that what this is all about Toad?  Are you worried that I think you are an animal because you enjoy killing them?  Fear not.  I don't.

(Besides...you wear cool tweed clothes and show the proper "respect" for the birds you kill  ;) )
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« Reply #27 on: May 11, 2006, 07:26:49 PM »
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You people are forgetting that this creature is a mixture of two of the most aggressive CARNIVORES known to man.
They are unpredictable, definately NOT the most aggressive, besides, they are OMNIVORES...
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« Reply #28 on: May 11, 2006, 07:27:47 PM »
Last time I went bird hunting my buddy, I'll call him Richard, shot me in the face.

He said it was a mistake, but...  I'm not quite so sure.
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« Reply #29 on: May 11, 2006, 07:32:47 PM »
Good grief, Curval, you act as tho this guy paid his way into killing an endangered species.

Dont like hunting, fine.  Dont like guns, fine

But good grief, let it go.  Don't get your pink shorts in a bunch :)
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