Author Topic: Free press in the way? (Read 946 times)

J_A_B · « **Reply #30 on:** May 17, 2006, 04:54:13 PM »

The thing with giving up civil liberties is the Government--all governments, really--is always happier to take them away than give them back.

Free press doesn't come without its own problems, though. Spanish-American war, anyone?

J_A_B

Hangtime · « **Reply #31 on:** May 17, 2006, 06:28:20 PM »

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Originally posted by Ripsnort
As opposed to do nothing, hide in our closets from the bad guys? I think if we were to do nothing as you suggest, then the terrorists have won.

CONTROL THE BORDERS. SECURE THE PORTS;. IT'S BEEN 5 FREAKIN YEARS;.. SOME OF US HAVE PARENTS THAT REMEMBER AMERICA WON WWII IN 4.

50 BILLION.. YOU THINK THEY HAVE THE SITUATION IN HAND? THAT YOU ARE SAFER??

BULLPUCKEY!

'WAR ON TERROR' MY FREAKIN ARSE!

IT'S A WAR ON AMERICANS, BEING ORCHESTRATED BY A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT USING SCARE TACTICS TO SERVE THE CORPORATE INTRESTS.. THE GUYS THAT SIGN YER FREAKIN CHECK, YOU MISERABLE SELL-OUT!

NattyIced · « **Reply #32 on:** May 17, 2006, 06:34:14 PM »

Ooo, Hang is pissed. I'm with him.

Toad · « **Reply #33 on:** May 17, 2006, 10:38:15 PM »

We won in four but it took two nukes.

Somehow I don't think that most in this thread will approve the use of nukes against anyone.

Hangtime · « **Reply #34 on:** May 17, 2006, 10:44:47 PM »

*idea!*

wee shall see!!

(see nuke vote thread)

AlGorithm · « **Reply #35 on:** May 17, 2006, 10:46:11 PM »

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Hangtime wrote;
IT'S A WAR ON AMERICANS, BEING ORCHESTRATED BY A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT USING SCARE TACTICS TO SERVE THE CORPORATE INTRESTS

Give that man a cigar.

VOR · « **Reply #36 on:** May 17, 2006, 10:59:58 PM »

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Originally posted by Dale
IT'S A WAR ON AMERICANS, BEING ORCHESTRATED BY A CORRUPT GOVERNMENT USING SCARE TACTICS TO SERVE THE CORPORATE INTRESTS.. THE GUYS THAT SIGN YER FREAKIN CHECK, YOU MISERABLE SELL-OUT!

AlGorithm · « **Reply #37 on:** May 17, 2006, 11:05:05 PM »

The FBI filed "National Security Letters" to get phone records from ABC.
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"National Security Letters" are only used in terrorism cases.
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ABC is owned by Disney.
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Disney supports terrorists.

Debonair · « **Reply #38 on:** May 18, 2006, 02:48:12 AM »

the war on drugs is about 20 years old
the war on poverty is about twice that
the was on masturbation has been going on for centuries

the good news is that fewer people are poor or selling drugs because they're employed in the pr0n industry

deSelys · « **Reply #39 on:** May 18, 2006, 04:48:48 AM »

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Originally posted by Toad
We won in four but it took two nukes.

Somehow I don't think that most in this thread will approve the use of nukes against anyone.

Victory was achieved on the ETO without nukes.

Gunslinger · « **Reply #40 on:** May 18, 2006, 05:54:28 AM »

If the govt was doing a traffic study at an intersection to determin traffic patters about how many cars made a left hand turn and how many went strait.....and there was a judical process to oversee this traffic study.....and there were no liscense plate numbers written down, just the types of cars and the direction they went.....I don't see how my civil rights were being violated.

Now if this study was classified by the executive branch for security reasons and somone leaked it then I think the leaker should face a court as well. This whole chicken little attitude by some is sickening to me, there is a process in place and a road map for usage, let the system work.

Just like free speech is not absolute, free press follows the same guidlines. You have to be responsible for what you say and print if it causes harm to others.

Mighty1 · « **Reply #41 on:** May 18, 2006, 07:04:22 AM »

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Originally posted by Hangtime

now, as of this day, our borders are not secure. my phone is tapped. our ports are seives. we have spent 50 billion dollars on homeland security, watched the governement trample our civil rights..

Borders are not secure? I agree.

Your phone is tapped? You must be talking to terrorist then so stop.

Our ports are seives? Been that way for more than 20 years why the whine now?(oh yeah! I forgot that's the Democrat talking point)

Your rights trampled on? You still have the right to whine like a girl so grow up.

Some parents know WW2 was won in 4 years? I don't need Mom and Dad to tell me how it came out. Plus it's apples and oranges. In WW2 we had clear cut enemies while now we fight people who mingle with the crowd and come from countries we are not supposed to be at war with.

Hap · « **Reply #42 on:** May 18, 2006, 07:04:40 AM »

FBI Acknowledges: Journalists' Phone Records are Fair Game
May 16, 2006 12:25 PM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

The FBI acknowledged late Monday that it is increasingly seeking reporters' phone records in leak investigations.

"It used to be very hard and complicated to do this, but it no longer is in the Bush administration," said a senior federal official.

Shamus, it's plain awful. Chilling yes. To say it's Orwellian is not an exaggeration.

~~hap~~

Mighty1 · « **Reply #43 on:** May 18, 2006, 07:08:51 AM »

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Originally posted by Hap
FBI Acknowledges: Journalists' Phone Records are Fair Game
May 16, 2006 12:25 PM

Brian Ross and Richard Esposito Report:

The FBI acknowledged late Monday that it is increasingly seeking reporters' phone records in leak investigations.

"It used to be very hard and complicated to do this, but it no longer is in the Bush administration," said a senior federal official.

Shamus, it's plain awful. Chilling yes. To say it's Orwellian is not an exaggeration.

~~hap~~

Your right!

The FBI actually trying to find out who is leaking classified info to the press is chilling and Orwellian!

Mini D · « **Reply #44 on:** May 18, 2006, 07:25:34 AM »

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Originally posted by midnight Target
Clinton had no domestic terrorist attacks for almost 8 years... I guess his policies were twice as good.

Revisionist history again?