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Offline scot12b

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« Reply #60 on: May 23, 2006, 05:42:50 AM »
Ok if the 38 fly`s   like it use to why did HTC say thir was a bug and it did affect the 38 flaps?:confused:
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« Reply #61 on: May 23, 2006, 05:52:00 AM »
gonna have to go look at flap postions now in 38...I remember having that needle buried.  sure looked like there was more left.


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« Reply #62 on: May 23, 2006, 06:02:07 AM »
I give up, i'm just flying a Spit like everyone else :cry
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« Reply #63 on: May 23, 2006, 06:54:27 AM »
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I give up, i'm just flying a Spit like everyone else :cry
what do you think that rediculously over modelled P38 was before?  all the chest puffy P38 players involved in a communal whine is music.  The fact is the P38 still rocks, it's just your antigravity device has been curbed a wee bit.  get over it.

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« Reply #64 on: May 23, 2006, 10:36:13 AM »
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what do you think that rediculously over modelled P38 was before?  all the chest puffy P38 players involved in a communal whine is music.  The fact is the P38 still rocks, it's just your antigravity device has been curbed a wee bit.  get over it.


LOL, at least you are predicable.  You base your comment on the 38 on your years of actual flight time?  Seems to me you were in the 109 Chorus loud and clear :)

I think the point, which is the same point that the 109 drivers were making pre patch, is that the AH ride they remembered as better performing and more fun, is now not that and it's impacted on the fun.

Now get back to 30K with your pack of 109s :)
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« Reply #65 on: May 23, 2006, 10:37:57 AM »
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Worse; I was sober.

So, from what I gather after searching through the bbs, HTC knows about this bug, they just haven't either fixed it, or released the patch, correct? They could be having trouble nailing down the exact cause, or perhaps they've got it fixed and are working on a few other bugs in the hopes of releasing a patch soon, or maybe this isn't a huge priority with them. I can understand being frustrated, having been screwed in the past by bugs introduced, but coming on here and screaming and *****ing isn't really going to get anything done any faster, is it?


Who are you and what have you done with hub?
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« Reply #66 on: May 23, 2006, 11:41:36 AM »
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what do you think that rediculously over modelled P38 was before?  all the chest puffy P38 players involved in a communal whine is music.  The fact is the P38 still rocks, it's just your antigravity device has been curbed a wee bit.  get over it.


I remember your communal whine misic on this very same bbs about the 109 for some time which i did agree to.
Have you forgotten AH1 where the 38 would take 1 ping that would kill a motor and take off the vertical stabilizer?
The relevace of this post is what delerium has said the bug was introduced in march and here we are almost into june more than enough time to fix the problem imho.

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« Reply #67 on: May 23, 2006, 11:48:58 AM »
"Granted, you can't go full flap anymore and out turn Zero's but hey...you shouldn't be able too right?"


I don't think think the 38 was ever able to outturn a zero ( in a flat turn anyway ) , theres quite a few planes that would outturn the 38 ( pilots being equal ) in a flat turn going round and round in circles, the 38 may be able to stay with the other plane for the 1st 1/2 of the turn, maybe even beating them by using flaps, but it wont hold a sustained flat turn with it. Of coarse add the vertical to the fight and the 38 wins... It still whoops other planes in the vert easily, even the new hover mode corsairs. Flat turn and roll rate the corsair will win, but if the 38 goes vertical the corsair will stall out a good 3 seconds before the 38 does. Was in the TA about 2-3 weeks ago and tested this with the assistance of Ghost. Anyone flying the 38 in circles in a flat turn is not using its best advantage IMHO which is the vertical.. The last notch of flaps bug would be a very welcome fix, but in no way is this plane obsolete. It just won't chase it's own tail like it used to in a flaturn...

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« Reply #68 on: May 23, 2006, 12:04:36 PM »
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"Granted, you can't go full flap anymore and out turn Zero's but hey...you shouldn't be able too right?"


I don't think think the 38 was ever able to outturn a zero ( in a flat turn anyway ) , theres quite a few planes that would outturn the 38 ( pilots being equal ) in a flat turn going round and round in circles, the 38 may be able to stay with the other plane for the 1st 1/2 of the turn, maybe even beating them by using flaps, but it wont hold a sustained flat turn with it. Of coarse add the vertical to the fight and the 38 wins... It still whoops other planes in the vert easily, even the new hover mode corsairs. Flat turn and roll rate the corsair will win, but if the 38 goes vertical the corsair will stall out a good 3 seconds before the 38 does. Was in the TA about 2-3 weeks ago and tested this with the assistance of Ghost. Anyone flying the 38 in circles in a flat turn is not using its best advantage IMHO which is the vertical.. The last notch of flaps bug would be a very welcome fix, but in no way is this plane obsolete. It just won't chase it's own tail like it used to in a flaturn...



Was this tested with the -4?


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« Reply #69 on: May 23, 2006, 12:16:06 PM »
yes, sorry it was the U4 model of the corsair versus the J model 38

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« Reply #70 on: May 23, 2006, 12:25:14 PM »
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Ok if the 38 fly`s   like it use to why did HTC say thir was a bug and it did affect the 38 flaps?:confused:



Because there is a bug with full flaps deployed.  I was stating that in my opinion other than the bug at full flaps the P-38 flies like it  used to.


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« Reply #71 on: May 23, 2006, 12:28:38 PM »
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all the chest puffy P38 players involved in a communal whine is music.  



Strange...I don't recall whining.  


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« Reply #72 on: May 23, 2006, 12:31:55 PM »
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LOL, at least you are predicable.  You base your comment on the 38 on your years of actual flight time?  Seems to me you were in the 109 Chorus loud and clear :)



He's basing his comments on all the times he's gotten his arse whacked by a P-38 in here.  Honestly though, even a player in a C-47 could shoot down Storch.  Which explains why he flies in a hord and at 30,000ft.



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« Reply #73 on: May 23, 2006, 01:08:18 PM »
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Because there is a bug with full flaps deployed.  I was stating that in my opinion other than the bug at full flaps the P-38 flies like it  used to.


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« Reply #74 on: May 23, 2006, 01:50:44 PM »
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Frankly (and I hate to be so negative), the change happened on March 20th and it is now almost June... that isn't time enough to examine the problem and remedy it?

I really like HTC and everything they have done for me and well as liking the game itself, but I feel I've given them more than enough time.


Your assuming the next patch will ONLY fix the P-38 flap bug, there are probably much, much more fixes in it.
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