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« Reply #15 on: May 29, 2006, 05:25:54 AM »
Yeah, ill never understand the need some people feel to fly obsolete planes like the Spit1, Hurr1 or P40B in such a nasty late war enviroment as the MA.....



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« Reply #16 on: May 29, 2006, 05:27:30 AM »
that set up was depicting an actual battle that occurred in April 1944.

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« Reply #17 on: May 29, 2006, 09:50:13 AM »
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Yeah, ill never understand the need some people feel to fly obsolete planes like the Spit1, Hurr1 or P40B in such a nasty late war enviroment as the MA.....


We cant explain why we do it. Its an aquirred taste for these planes. The bad sides are People come and shoot at us first because they think we are easy kills. But it has its good point, never a shortage of the enemy.
and imagine the recognition you get if you land 4 or 5 in a spitI or a P40B

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« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2006, 12:02:42 PM »
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PZL 11g"Kobuz" / latin. Falco subbuteo
http://www.muz-lotnictwa.krakow.pl/pzl11.jpg
PZL-37/II "Łoś" /Elk
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/fot/fot215.jpg
PZL-50 "Jastrząb"/Hawk
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/fot/fot063.jpg
PZL-45 "Sokół" /falcon
http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/rys/rys156.jpg

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http://www.samoloty.ow.pl/str003k7.htm



there is no reason for any of this planes, even if war start in 1939.
Except 150 P-37 in line nooone of thos planes serve in 1939, last 2 never saw combat.
P-50 was only 2-3 prototypes, P-45 never left drawing board.
Useless on MA , no match for current LW planes we have now.
Im not saying  ( as a Pole) its not nice to have them, but they are just useless

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« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2006, 12:56:08 PM »
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Except 150 P-37 in line nooone of thos planes serve in 1939, last 2 never saw combat.


Not by Poland maybe, but they were well used by Romania (both the ones they already had and the ones flown to Romania in Sept. 1939 by fleeing Polish pilots) until 1943 against the Russians. They served as both light attackers and recon planes until they were replaced by Ju87s and Ju88s during the rebuilding after Stalingrad.
Treize (pronounced 'trays')- because 'Treisprezece' is too long and even harder to pronounce.

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« Reply #20 on: May 29, 2006, 01:05:41 PM »
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Not by Poland maybe, but they were well used by Romania (both the ones they already had and the ones flown to Romania in Sept. 1939 by fleeing Polish pilots) until 1943 against the Russians. They served as both light attackers and recon planes until they were replaced by Ju87s and Ju88s during the rebuilding after Stalingrad.


yea, all 22 planes ;-) what a strike force

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« Reply #21 on: May 29, 2006, 01:34:47 PM »
PZL P.11 yes please.
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« Reply #22 on: May 29, 2006, 01:35:32 PM »
Low numbers is the problem with any French or Polish aircraft we could introduce. When you are knocked out of the war in less than a month, you usually don't have a lot of aircraft in service. At least not compared to the numbers some aircraft reached by 1945.

Considering only about 5% of the people in any arena/setup will actually use any dedicated attack plane we give them, low numbers shouldn't really matter as long as they actually saw combat.

"In September 1939, 22 (according to Romanian sources) or 27 (Polish sources) took refuge in Romania in front of the advancing German and Soviet forces. The airplanes were interned and 19 of them were armed and assigned to the 4th Bomber Group.

The group participated in operations from very first day of Barbarossa, when two were lost to Soviet AAA. Until the end of the campaign only one P.37 was shot down. But the lack of spare parts meant that few were serviceable. The PZLs claimed 4 VVS fighters shot down and 25 destroyed on the ground.

The P.37s were retreated from active duty, but in 1944, as the front reached Romania, all available forces were mobilized in a desperate attempt to stop the Red Army. Only one P.37B equipped squadron could be raised: the 76th, which was subordinated to the 4th Bomber Group.

After 23 August 1944, the remaining P.37Bs were again retreated, but this time for good."

from 'WorldWar2.ro Romanian Armed Forces in the Second World War'
Treize (pronounced 'trays')- because 'Treisprezece' is too long and even harder to pronounce.

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