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Offline Sakai

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« on: May 24, 2006, 09:41:28 AM »
A. Ju87 enters dive, here at 15,000 feet.

B. Ju87 reaches the maxium dive speed of 350 mph at a dive angle of 80%.

C. About 30 seconds after start of the dive, the Ju87 reaches the pull-out altitude, which was previously decided if the attack was planned. The pilot presses a button initiating the automatic pull-out system.

D. A few seconds after pull out is initiated, the bomb automatically releases from the plane.

E. After the pull-out, the pilot attempts to regain control of the plane, retracts the dive brakes, opens the throttle, trims for level flight and tries to get away as quick as possible to avoid being hit by the explosion and debris of the bomb!

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« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2006, 02:36:48 PM »
Very nice instructional post on Stuka dive bombing.




Was there a point to it?  Or just for grins and giggles?
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« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2006, 02:46:48 PM »
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Very nice instructional post on Stuka dive bombing.
Was there a point to it?  Or just for grins and giggles?


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« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2006, 03:45:32 PM »
If the stuka where to be introduced into the current setup it would be a hanger queen. Yeah, it's a really cool plane and if ya have Mitsu's sound pack you can hear that cool wail as you enter your dive and pull out as your bomb leaves the plane. BUT in this setting the stuka would simply be a flying target.
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If ya read up on your history the only way the Stuka had any success is when it had Air cover. Most the time when they where used the German's had total air dominance. But, as we see in the Battle of Britian, when challenged by fighters the Stuka's where slaughtered.
 It would be kinda cool if we had the G version with the 37mm. But as others pointed out in countless threads before. It would still sit in the hanger and collect dust.
Your cool diagram also fails to show you F and G....where the Stuka after dropping its Ord is intercepted and blown to pieces.
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« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2006, 11:58:39 PM »
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Your cool diagram also fails to show you F and G....where the Stuka after dropping its Ord is intercepted and blown to pieces.
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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 02:10:56 AM »
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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 07:00:54 AM »
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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 09:05:07 AM »
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If the stuka where to be introduced into the current setup it would be a hanger queen. Yeah, it's a really cool plane and if ya have Mitsu's sound pack you can hear that cool wail as you enter your dive and pull out as your bomb leaves the plane. BUT in this setting the stuka would simply be a flying target.
Also
If ya read up on your history the only way the Stuka had any success is when it had Air cover. Most the time when they where used the German's had total air dominance. But, as we see in the Battle of Britian, when challenged by fighters the Stuka's where slaughtered.
 It would be kinda cool if we had the G version with the 37mm. But as others pointed out in countless threads before. It would still sit in the hanger and collect dust.
Your cool diagram also fails to show you F and G....where the Stuka after dropping its Ord is intercepted and blown to pieces.
:t :t :aok


Really?

Gee, this history is all brand new news to me.  How ever did I miss it.  Are you saying this plane was slow and its inherent stability made evasion in it poor?  

I can't believe that . . . .

I guess that thread about unbalancing the arenas was too subtle?

I've never blown myself up in a Stuka, not an one time, but I reckon I can go see if I could . . .

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« Reply #8 on: May 29, 2006, 06:37:17 AM »
"If ya read up on your history the only way the Stuka had any success is when it had Air cover. "

And if you read a bit more you realize that on the eastern front the Stukas could  provide "fighter cover" pretty well by themselves. I does have a rather small wingloading without bombs...

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« Reply #9 on: May 31, 2006, 12:49:08 PM »
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I've never blown myself up in a Stuka, not an one time


Riigghtt....your telling me that you've never been downed by enemy action? Must be one of those REMF tricks then. :aok


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Stukas could provide "fighter cover" pretty well by themselves


:huh

Stuka's providing "fighter support"?!?! Care to point me towards the book that you got this from? I would love to read about how Stuka's fended off the Yaks, Laggs, Migs, ducks, geese, and kitchen sinks that where thrown at them on the eastern front. Oh and Rudel doesnt count. :aok
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« Reply #10 on: May 31, 2006, 01:13:43 PM »
I had a lot fun one night using the Ju-87 and dogfighting a Hurricane,  If I had something bigger than two 7mm guns I would have got him too.
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« Reply #11 on: June 01, 2006, 01:33:42 PM »
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Riigghtt....your telling me that you've never been downed by enemy action? Must be one of those REMF tricks then. :aok


Hmmmmm . . .

This is rather confusing, you might try re-reading it and see where you got off track from "never blown myself up in one" to "enemy action".  If you still need something answered I'm glad to discuss it.  

The Stuka, Vall, SBD, Kate . . .

These are actually hard to blow yourself up in or "pancake" into the ground because they are so stable.

But if you have self immolation in dive bombers mastered, I'd love to see the films.  I'm always up for learning something new.

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« Reply #12 on: June 01, 2006, 10:34:42 PM »
Doh, my bad... I thought you were implying that you've never been shot down in a Ju-87.
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« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2006, 07:22:15 AM »
"Oh and Rudel doesnt count. "
Sure pal, despite being a nazi he has a lot more credibility than you on the matter of how the JU87 was used on the Eastern front. :aok

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« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2006, 07:48:51 AM »
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Doh, my bad... I thought you were implying that you've never been shot down in a Ju-87.


I know, it's funny how we all drift all over these subjects casually, misreading is a part of the process here.



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