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Offline Nilsen

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« on: May 25, 2006, 02:45:26 AM »
... and have too much money compared to your brain capacity :D

This 2 million dollar Fairline 58 hit rocks on its maiden voiage from the shipyard. The owner who wishes to be anonymous (doh!) Didnt even get it back to his dock. He used GPS to navigate and has prolly never seen a map in his life.

Reminds me of someone else that hit some rocks... hmm cant remember who


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« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2006, 02:48:18 AM »
Shoulda had a better GPS, I guess.
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« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2006, 02:49:38 AM »
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Shoulda had a better GPS, I guess.


Does not matter how good your GPS is if you cant use a map and your eyes are glued to the screen rather than were thy are supposed to be

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« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2006, 02:52:04 AM »
If the rocks were visible, then a map wouldn't have helped.  Piloting his boat properly would have.  A GPS is a fine substitute for a map as long as it is functioning, especially if the GPS has all of the same data as the map.

Don't blame the GPS, blame the guy who didn't know how to use the tools he had.
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« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2006, 02:54:19 AM »
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If the rocks were visible, then a map wouldn't have helped.  Piloting his boat properly would have.  A GPS is a fine substitute for a map as long as it is functioning, especially if the GPS has all of the same data as the map.

Don't blame the GPS, blame the guy who didn't know how to use the tools he had.


thats what i did..

GPS is useless if you cant navigate, read a map or use your eyes.

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« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2006, 03:44:00 AM »
I've tried out that TomTom navigator thing that's available here, but I would never buy one. I could not bring myself to abandon myself to such a device from the moment of starting the engine. The time I tried it, I became suspicious when previewing the directions, which sounded completely wrong, only to find that my destination shared its name with another village about 30 miles away.

GPS for use in airborne navigation is excellent, however.

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« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2006, 07:58:22 AM »
A good GPS for naval use would have included ocean floor information and map with average depths. The "captain" must not have been paying attention.

Also, judging by the alge growth on the water line, I doubt that is the maiden voyage of that boat. Maybe the first cruise of the clown that bought though.

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« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2006, 08:04:47 AM »
I used to laugh at the new skippers with thier lorans, radars and sounders/plotters.

Nobody ever looked at any of that stuff till AFTER they ran aground.

Then they'd look at the screens, push some buttons and say.. "we're arground!!"

Like.. 'Surprise!'

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« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2006, 08:06:18 AM »
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A good GPS for naval use would have included ocean floor information and map with average depths. The "captain" must not have been paying attention.

Also, judging by the alge growth on the water line, I doubt that is the maiden voyage of that boat. Maybe the first cruise of the clown that bought though.


Brand new boat picked up by the owner. May ofcourse have been sitting in the water at the shipyard, and perhaps not even painted with that bottom stuff.

Does not matter what kind of GPS unit it has (im guessing standard issue garmin on those high-end boats) if you dont pay attention.

GPS has a 3-5 meter accuracy up here, and that is more than enough to get you stuck on a rock. I bet that it is 100% likley that you will if you would navigate up say 50 nm miles along our coastline. I remember from my days in the navy that we were not allowed to navigate using GPS within 1nm from shore because visual navigation and good seamanship is more accurate.

This kind of ""accident"" happens more and more as more people of the city dwelling type get their hands on faster/bigger/more expecive boats without any knowledge of operating one. As of next year everyone that wishes to use one needs a license... about friggin time. As it is now anyone over the age of 16 can operate any boat regardless of HP up to 50ft in size. Above that and you need a license. This will now become mandatory for all.. just like driving a car.

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« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2006, 08:08:16 AM »
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I used to laugh at the new skippers with thier lorans, radars and sounders/plotters.

Nobody ever looked at any of that stuff till AFTER they ran aground.

Then they'd look at the screens, push some buttons and say.. "we're arground!!"

Like.. 'Surprise!'

LOL!



LOL yeah.. Morons. If they ever lost power to their equipment they would prolly holler "abandon ship" and get off in a hurry hoping thier wife has enough boyancy to keep them from drowning

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« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2006, 08:08:39 AM »
If the boat was floating at where that green crap is on the hull, I'm surprised it didn't capsize. That boat would have been up way too high in the water.

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« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2006, 08:23:34 AM »
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If the boat was floating at where that green crap is on the hull, I'm surprised it didn't capsize. That boat would have been up way too high in the water.


just the bow.. its a big boat and most you dont see


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« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2006, 08:30:37 AM »
The algae line just doesn't look right for a boat sitting in a harbor - if it was there for an extended period of time.

My dad's boat is a 23ft Searay, it sits lower on the bow unless of course your gunning it through the water - but then algae won't have time to grow on it.

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« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2006, 08:39:07 AM »
Ever stand next to a big cruiser like this? The part out of the water is big.. as is the part below. Looks right to me..

Fairline is a traditional british firma that has made excellent motor yatch for a long time and i doubt its top heavy. I can agree that modern boats in general are abit "fat" for my taste. Not as sleek and elegant as in the past, but alot more room inside.

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« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2006, 08:41:26 AM »
I'll take your word for it. It's been a few years since I've been on the water. There were huge yachts in the harbor, but I spent most my time dodging them rather than looking at them.