Author Topic: sound barrier? (Read 1208 times)

toadkill · « **on:** May 28, 2006, 10:57:41 PM »

is it possible? ive heard that HTC said it isnt.

Meatwad · « **Reply #1 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:02:27 PM »

Do what now?

toadkill · « **Reply #2 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:04:30 PM »

c'mon put 2 and 2 together

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can you break the sound barrier in AH

Meatwad · « **Reply #3 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:22:23 PM »

You didnt ask anything about breaking the sound barrier. You should learn how to post your questions better

Anyway if you can read what you posted in the first post, you will see your answer

Toad · « **Reply #4 on:** May 28, 2006, 11:25:42 PM »

The sonic boom will blow your speakers/headset.

Don't be fool, Blackie! Pull up! PULL UP!

Platano · « **Reply #5 on:** May 29, 2006, 02:34:46 AM »

BTW i forgot how fast sound travels

Angus · « **Reply #6 on:** May 29, 2006, 03:34:11 AM »

Depends on temperature.

SAS_KID · « **Reply #7 on:** May 29, 2006, 04:46:34 AM »

usually around 750mph

bkbandit · « **Reply #8 on:** May 29, 2006, 04:58:17 AM »

Yea mach one is around 720 to 750, These prop planes couldnt go that fast in a dive. The only reason the f86 saber could do it in a dive was the swept wing.

BaDkaRmA158Th · « **Reply #9 on:** May 29, 2006, 06:23:51 AM »

Could a 163 reach such speed before suffering from wing failure?

ghi · « **Reply #10 on:** May 29, 2006, 08:15:54 AM »

http://mach1.luftarchiv.de/mach1.htm

Angus · « **Reply #11 on:** May 29, 2006, 08:28:24 AM »

Very good link.

toadkill · « **Reply #12 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:18:35 AM »

so its not possible?

Widewing · « **Reply #13 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:53:15 AM »

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Originally posted by Angus
Very good link.

Unfortunately, the writer of the web page has quoted the manual, and the manual refers to localized supersonic airflow. Any aircraft entering compressibility experiences localized supersonic airflow.

The fact remains that the Me 262 suffered from too much drag rise to get anywhere near Mach 1. When tested, even the lower drag F-80 was unable to exceed Mach 0.92, with scale models never exceeding Mach 0.94.

More than a few WWII pilots reported exceeding Mach 1, but we know that this was impossible. For example, the fastest anyone pushed a P-47 was to Mach 0.83 (just over 600 mph).

My understanding is that the Me 262 had a critical Mach of 0.87, and suffered structural failure not far above this.

In addition, many pilots reported that their controls froze solid and later freed up during the dive. Many of these pilots believed they had exceeded Mach one, but they were wrong. What actually occurred was that as they continued down, the air warmed and their speed relative to Mach one actually decreased, thus restoring control.

Mutke's claim was long ago dismissed by the Flight Test community as wishful thinking.

My regards,

Widewing

Widewing · « **Reply #14 on:** May 29, 2006, 10:55:08 AM »

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Originally posted by toadkill
so its not possible?

With the revised drag model of update 2.07, it's now possible to reach Mach 1.00, but not exceed it. Regardless of how high you start in the 262, you cannot exceed Mach 1.00. In the game, that is terminal velocity. Moreover, recovery is another issue. I was unable to exceed Mach 0.92 in the Me 163, even starting at 40,000 feet.

Clearly, the aero loadings are too low now. My 262 sould have come apart around Mach 0.90......

As I have said elsewhere on these boards; HTC will likely "adjust" the drag model again with the next update. Currently, there are several aircraft that display inordinate performance gains with the last update.

My regards,

Widewing