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Offline Hobodog

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« on: August 27, 2001, 09:18:00 PM »
State whether you concur with the right thing to do or are against the right thing to do. The explain.

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« Reply #1 on: August 27, 2001, 09:26:00 PM »
Oh gawd... been there, done that... got the t-shirt.

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« Reply #2 on: August 27, 2001, 09:28:00 PM »
That's a stingy topic.

I would say yes to abortions if certain strenous circumstances are in motion. For example, high risk of genetic defects due to radiation or chemical exposure, if the pregnancy is caused by a rape (but i'd say its acceptable if the abortion happens inside the first 2 weeks of pregnancy) or if the pregnancy puts the mother at high risk of death (aka, underage pregnancies).

All the above are of course, with the complete consent of the pregnant woman.

I believe that any other reason why someone would have an abortion is just taking the easy way out. Unwanted pregnancies, "accidents", ignorance or social/economic status is no reason to destroy a life.

But then again (and here's to open another can of worms), the USA already has legalized murder of children. There are some 15 yr. olds and under waiting in death row.. and a 14yr old girl was already executed. Its just sickening.

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« Reply #3 on: August 27, 2001, 09:43:00 PM »
Heh- this is a controversial topic.  There is no "right thing to do".  It all basically comes down to this- When does "human" life start?  By that I mean self-awareness, i.e. the knowledge that YOU exist in the world.  

At conception?  Do two cells that merge suddenly become self aware?  Or is it even before that?  Is a sperm cell self-aware?  Every time I masturbate, am I committing murder on a scale never seen before?

I have no doubt that most rational people would say that self-awareness, or "life", doesn't begin until well after that stage.  But we don't really know for SURE when it starts.  

I do agree that abortion is a shoddy way to get rid of an "unwanted" or "accidental" pregnancy.  However, I also believe that a woman should have the right to an abortion, even in those cases.  Thankfully, I'm a guy, and so I really don't have to worry about what I'd do in that situation.  

I've heard that in a lot of cases women go through severe emotional trauma after they realize exactly what it is that they have done- perhaps women that want to get an abortion should be required to talk with one who has had it done already?  

Regardless, I'll not view abortion as murder until someone can give me irrefutable evidence as to when "life" actually starts- because something has to be alive in order to be murdered.

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« Reply #4 on: August 27, 2001, 09:53:00 PM »
legal - on demand up to the point of viability.

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« Reply #5 on: August 27, 2001, 11:10:00 PM »
illegal except in the case of rape, danger to mother, or SEVERE genetic birth defect

ie baby would not survuve without modern technology or constant care

i believe healthy babies should have the right to be born... but if they are severely handicapped then mabye better to abort them? too much of a burden on the family/society

and im not talking handicaps like blind/deaf/cant walk/stuff like that, i mean mental handicaps where they will never have more intelligence than a dolphin or something

i say that because i dont think i would want to have a retarded baby so cant be a hypocrite even tho they are a human being. so i dont follow church guidelines to the letter. sue me  :)

but i have too many healthy friends who were adopted to think its moral/should be legal to have abortions.. after all, mike/james/amanda/carolyn/ben/shawn all wouldnt be here today if their parents had chosen to abort them rather than give them up. and the world is a better place because they are here  :)

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« Reply #6 on: August 27, 2001, 11:22:00 PM »
I think that it has to be legal. I dont like it one damn bit, but it just does. I would also like to have the same right to "my body" that women have. Specifically the right to trip my balls off on LSD on sundays or smoke a fat joint in my back yard.
If I hurt someone else while intoxicated then punish me, but if she can participate in the destruction of another human being, claiming its "her body", then I should be able to take bong hits all night long...after all...its "my body"!

Oh...one more thing...I dont think there should ever be a reason (other than medical) for abortion...there are too many infertile couples out there that would love to adopt a child...especially a newborn.

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« Reply #7 on: August 27, 2001, 11:28:00 PM »
I'm all for "illegalizing" idiots who post loaded questions.

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« Reply #8 on: August 28, 2001, 12:01:00 AM »
Save yourselves some time. There's another thread or two just like this back in storage.

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