Author Topic: sipt9 out turns zero (Read 1181 times)

RAIDER14 · « **Reply #15 on:** May 29, 2006, 07:01:04 PM »

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Originally posted by MOSQ
At 250 MPH both planes are limited to a 6 G turn. That means neither can turn tighter than the other. My guess is the Spit chopped throttle, lowering his speed and turning tighter than you.

exactly:aok

Fruda · « **Reply #16 on:** May 29, 2006, 07:05:35 PM »

What the hell were you doing keeping your speed up in that turn? When you turn at a high speed in the Zero, cut the throttle immediately.

Hoarach · « **Reply #17 on:** May 29, 2006, 08:23:41 PM »

It can be done. Ive out moved spit 16s and la7s in my 38 on the deck.

Howitzer · « **Reply #18 on:** May 29, 2006, 09:42:15 PM »

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Originally posted by Guppy35
Isn't this the key phrase here? At what point were you slow enough for the turning circle of the Zeke to make the difference?

Shot down lots of zekes in the old 38G while the speed is still up there. IF we get to slow, I know I'm in trouble.

Yeah you and MOSQ are both right. At 250, that zeke is going way to fast to turn as tightly as you remember. The way you win that fight is to get him slow, you get him slow, and he's dead. Now you know for next time.

SAS_KID · « **Reply #19 on:** May 29, 2006, 11:48:15 PM »

jeez at 300mph in a zeke your already loseing a wing:lol

. Spit probalby chopped throttale and put full elevators in and got a quick snapshot on you. Remember zeke go boom with 1 20mm.(Usually)

Morpheus · « **Reply #20 on:** May 30, 2006, 12:46:05 AM »

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Originally posted by sharp8th
he didnt have flaps or his speed down we where going 250 around in a cercle

that's why he killed you. you faught his fight.

Karnak · « **Reply #21 on:** May 30, 2006, 01:58:32 AM »

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Originally posted by SAS_KID
jeez at 300mph in a zeke your already loseing a wing:lol . Spit probalby chopped throttale and put full elevators in and got a quick snapshot on you. Remember zeke go boom with 1 20mm.(Usually)

Hardly. I have killed a Spitfire Mk IX in an A6M5b while doing nearly 425mph. 'Course I could barely manuever, but I got him. Keep in mind that even the A6M2 can break 300mph in level flight, so 300mph is well below the speed at which the A6M will lose parts. As to durability, it depends on where you hit. If you don't hit the pilot or fuel system, the A6M is just as tough as any other fighter of that size.

Sharp8th,

You must get the Zero slow in order to out turn a Spitfire. The A6M has very heavy controls at higher speeds. The Spitfire's ailerons get heavy, hurting its roll rate, but the Spitfire's elevators do not suffer at all and it can pull very tight even at high speeds.

Booz · « **Reply #22 on:** May 30, 2006, 06:26:16 AM »

Damn! Almost got called a cheater *sigh*, I'll have to try harder.

Sharp, if I could remeber the fight I'd explain what happened. I suspect you fell for a high yo-yo rollover after a spiral climb, because I do that a lot......but I don't remember it.

Boozer
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RightF00T · « **Reply #23 on:** May 30, 2006, 11:04:05 AM »

I've outflown a Zeke in a B17 and I didnt even have to turn!

-Lefty

FiLtH · « **Reply #24 on:** May 30, 2006, 02:01:31 PM »

A certain plane doesnt automatically kill another plane easily. It depends who is flying it.

Simaril · « **Reply #25 on:** May 30, 2006, 03:50:41 PM »

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Originally posted by FiLtH
A certain plane doesnt automatically kill another plane easily. It depends who is flying it.

Exactly.

For example, when Chuck Norris takes his Piper Cub up against a wing of Su-27s, the jet pilots will often bail from sheer terror.

Nifty · « **Reply #26 on:** May 30, 2006, 04:15:14 PM »

dunno from the little you described, but if he made a lead turn on the initial merge and you didn't start your turn until after the merge, he's definitely going to a head start on the angles game, regardless of plane type.

wetrat · « **Reply #27 on:** May 31, 2006, 03:31:20 PM »

I can take a few turns with a newb-flown zeke in a K4... has nothing to do with the plane, everything to do with the pilot.

Cr0ssEye · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2006, 08:25:09 AM »

i fly the zeke alot,
If you are fighting a zeke keep it above 250 and he doesnt have an advantage. if ytou get inb trouble you will still have power to accelerate and get some breathing room. Zekes don't pick up that last 50 mph very fast, use that to your advantage. If the zeke gets you slowed down to below 200 ( or he's below 200 and within 600) you are a dead duck. AT 175 the zekes can start rolling in his flaps at this point it is the tightest turner in the game.
Love the zeke but one 20 mm in any part of the plane and you lose that part period. The fuel tanks are suseptible to lighter rounds than the 20's.
I am not complaining i think it's a fair trade and you sure won't HO with anybody.
IMHO

TexMurphy · « **Reply #29 on:** June 01, 2006, 08:27:18 AM »

Do I smell stall limmiter turned on?

I doubt a Zekke with stall limmiter will out turn a Spit9...

Tex