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« Reply #15 on: May 30, 2006, 12:57:21 AM »
Been divorced for 6 years now... I am not looking back, as I enjoy it much better as it is today. Didn't excahnge any nasty emails... but we're still in court over a house in UK.

Stating how I feel about it probably would get me banned :D
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« Reply #16 on: May 30, 2006, 03:10:50 AM »
"The most beautiful of follies is not to love but to allow [another] to love him/herself."

"I am responsible for what I feel."

IMO spending your resources on anything but yourself is a waste of time.. No one else but you will fulfill your purpose/goals/interests/dreams/etc.  
Focusing on nothing but your own success will ensure your satisfaction, as well as that of any running mate that you're the best partner you can be, that you are the best you can offer.. win-win.
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« Reply #17 on: May 30, 2006, 03:17:59 AM »
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Hopes that one day, like the weather, things would just change for the better.


You have to make it change. Cant sit around waiting for it to happen all by itself.

It can be hard work, but if it is too easy something is prolly wrong somewere. One has to shake things up abit every now and then, and keep that finger up in the air to feel what way the wind is blowing.

Have only been married for less than a year, but we have lived together for over 10. Nothing changes after you get married, only your mindset if you let it. Alot easyer to get too relaxed after you put that ring on, but you have to pay attention.

You are young so see this as a great learning experience and move on. :)

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« Reply #18 on: May 30, 2006, 07:14:43 AM »
See Rule #2
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« Reply #19 on: May 30, 2006, 08:16:56 AM »
Neubob,

You have gotten some good advice here. Another important thing is to actually realize, no matter how necessary the divorce is, no matter how bad the marriage was, you WILL be hurt while it ends. You had hopes and they are hard to accept as gone forever.

You can and should decide to have a grieving period and then close it. It is natural to grieve for your loss, just don't make a career about it. Set a period of time then a goal to get over it at the end of that time. Don't excpect it to be done at that time but work at it as your goal.

Do not let yourself be alone all the time either. Get out, visit friends, make friends, DO stuff.

If you have kids, understand that as long as they are minors you WILL have to have some kind of contact with their mother. Limit the contact and make it formal. Insist through your lawyer she do the same. Do NOT respond to hurtfull e-mail, at all. If you have to, ask your lawyer how best to handle dealing with your wife and then follow the advice. Get some separation between yourselves.

Finally keep in mind that it DOES get better. Don't wallow in the now, concentrate on the future.

VERY IMPORTANT  DO NOT ALLOW THE CONFLICT TO COLOR THE RELATIONSHIP WITH YOUR KIDS. DO NOT USE THE KIDS AS A WEAPON AGAINST THE SPOUSE!!!! The kids see more and realize more than you can believe. They will spot the tactic for the attempt to hurt the other parent and they WILL resent it. Just love and support them as best you can.

Good luck and hang in there. Life happens and it moves on.
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« Reply #20 on: May 30, 2006, 08:16:56 AM »
It is hard to believe at this point I am sure but... soon enough... you will be relieved that she is not around.... you will be really glad when she finds someone else because then she won't bother you so much.

I am not so sure that the self help books make much sense in the real world....  I have had lots of conflict and anxiety continue indepenent to me in my life at times regardless of my participation.

drinking/drugs will make things worse.  They will prolong the time it takes to get over the pain.

be glad you had no children by her because once you realize how lucky you are to be rid of her.... it is over.  With children involved it is never over.  I have two ex wifes that I had children with..  I am comfortable around them but would just as soon they were out of my life for the most part.

In any case... a person can't sustain the levels of pain you are probly going through right now for long....  really... a year...18 months is tops for the real pain.... you might pick at the scab and get it to drag out a little longer or... anesthitize yourself and the time spent out won't count but...  If you can look at the situation with some perspective.... the pain dulls by a year and mostly goes away in two...  glad it happened might take 3.  

At 29 tho... this is just part of the much needed rollercoaster that moves you on to the next level of understanding yourself.

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« Reply #21 on: May 30, 2006, 08:30:36 AM »
I had a girl up and leave after living together about 6 years.  I was freaking devastated.  We weren't married but I'm pretty sure I can relate to what you are going through.

Forget the shrinks.  They aren't going to tell you anything you don't already know.

I hate to say it, but time is the only healer here...and its going to SUCK for a while.

BUT...in 5, 10, 15 years from now you will probably admit it was for the best.

Hell, I thought my life was essentially "over".  Then I met the girl I ended up marrying...put her through "hell" myself because I was still boo-hooing over the other girl.  It took 2 years for me to realise I was much better off without the one who left.

3 great kids and 7 years of marriage later and I feel like I am the luckiest guy in the world.

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« Reply #22 on: May 30, 2006, 08:32:05 AM »
I'm sorry to read your post Neubob.

Mine got me to a point where I felt that one of the four options left open actually involved me being dead - and that's when I decided the situation which was effed up, not me personally. (We're still married, for what it's worth.)

Toad's about right - she's getting you to mess with yourself, and you don't have to do it.

Record the phone calls, save the emails, but DON'T take the bait. It's taking the bait that makes you feel the worst, and you know it. Grotesque as it is, communicate with her through a third party if that's what it comes to. There are worse ways to be.

By all means have a drink or two - with friends, on a sunny afternoon. But nota bene, the bottle makes it all go away only for a limited time. All too soon you can be reaching for the bottle to make the bottle go away.

So, anyway, take it for what it's worth. Breathe in, breathe out.
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« Reply #23 on: May 30, 2006, 08:37:33 AM »
The opposite of love is not hate, it is indifference. Hate implies feeling. There is a cure for this pain, it ain't swift but it is a sure thing.... time.





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« Reply #24 on: May 30, 2006, 01:25:38 PM »
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She is too young. Dont marry any woman under 30.
20 is the new 9.


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« Reply #25 on: May 30, 2006, 01:38:13 PM »
Well, for what it's worth, I am in the middle of a divorce myself.  We've been separated since last Oct and the first 2 months were pure hell for me.  She basically left me for another guy.  Now, all these months later, she realised what a mistake it was and is trying to get back together with me.  I have no desire to rejoin our union, we made our vows 12 years ago, but it sure as hell sucks that now she wants to do that after I tried to keep the marriage together for those 2 months.  I'd just as soon be friends, carry on with our lives, and be happy.  

Women are truly the most frustrating and fascninating mystery of them all.  

Thankfully I have 2 female friends that keep me company.  One's a bartender that keeps my glass filled and the other,....well the other is "there for me".  

Take the good with the bad and just hang in there.   It'll get better.
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« Reply #26 on: May 30, 2006, 02:07:56 PM »
Sorry about your situation there Bob. As you can see you're not alone. Hang tough life will get good again. Just don't become too bitter and jaded over it. You could end up like me. Eight years after my last relationship and I still have no desire to risk getting trampled on again.

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« Reply #27 on: May 30, 2006, 02:54:47 PM »
Been there man.  I think the bitterness is the worst part.  My first marriage was a mistake from day 1 and we both knew it.  But we didnt know what else to do so we stayed together and made each other miserable.  5 years we did that, and finally had to call it quits.  It was rough becuase my son was only 4 at the time and just the look on his face when I was leaving was enough to make me want to stay.  Leaving him behind killed something in me that never came back.  But I knew it was better for him to grow up with 2 parents who didnt live together than to grow up with 2 parents fighting all the time.  She remarried, she's happy, he's a good kid.  I was a screwup as a father anyway, I probably did him more of a favor than I realized.  

Then came #2.  Like you, it was everything I thought I wanted, everything everybody always says a relationship is supposed to be.  She had issues, she had 2 kids from her previous marriage, my parents hated her with a passion (and thats saying something, let me tell you).  Matter of fact, I cant recall too many people that liked her.  I was hooked though.  We were together for about 2 years, then we got married.  11 months later I was moving out.  She wanted more kids, I didnt.  She wanted more freedom (read here, she wanted to sleep with whoever she chose to).  I can handle "something happened", I cant handle it when guys who are supposed to be friends are boinkin my wife.  Went nuts, beat the crap out of two of them, almost ran over another one ............ bitterness.  Not rage, just bitter.  It was supposed to be my chance to fix things, to make my life right, to have a real relationship.  Instead it was more pain.  Bitterness.  Oh it was deep too.  Lots of alcohol in there.  Pot.  Fights.  Bars.  More fights.  lol  You get the picture.  

After a couple of years and a couple more screwed up relationships, I finally figured it out.  Why I was so messed up.  I expected somebody else to fix my problems.  I put all my hopes on having that relationship set me right with the world and make up for my mistakes in the first one.  IT DONT WORK THAT WAY.  You either have to come to terms with who and what you are, or you have to fix it on your own.  You have to rely on yourself to be who you want to be, you cant define yourself by your relationship.  I was feeling sorry for myself because somebody else let me down.  Everyone has their own goals and dreams, you cant rely on them to make yours come true.  Make yourself into the person you want to be, make no apologies for who you are or what you are, and when you find someone who accepts that and still enjoys hanging out with you and doing stuff with you, then you've found someone you can build something with.  

Dont go into a relationship expecting change.  You'll get it alright, but never in the ways you expect.  If you go in expecting someone else to change to suit you, or them expecting you to change to suit them, its never going to work.  When you can both go in as individuals, and come out the other side still the same individuals and still liking each other, you've got something.  

Preaching mode off.  :)  I really wish you good luck getting on with your life.  Its difficult, but it will happen.

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« Reply #28 on: May 30, 2006, 05:39:28 PM »
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« Reply #29 on: May 30, 2006, 06:47:57 PM »
Been through 2 marriages and 2 live ins.

Perhaps I've been fortunate.  There was no mean emails (didn't have em then I guess, or didn't use em much) or mean voice mails. (didn't have the voice mails either).

Didn't really have the terrible screaming stuff so much.

Always tried to talk things out without all the name calling etc....

Remember when my parents split.  Remember how they both tried to get me to hate the other.

Read all the books, watched all the videos, etc.... of how to make a marriage work.  Hasn't worked so far.

Just tired now.

Several within this thread have expressed AVOID the name calling, saying bad stuff about, thing!!!!!  It WILL come back to hurt you later!

Don't play that game!

So many get into relationships with the belief that everything will be wonderful.  That everything will workout.  All you gotta do is be.

Sadly that is, in nearly every case, NOT the truth.

Hear it over and over from some female as to how this guy will be perfect if she can change this or that about him.  It usually then proceeds to something else needing changing.

Heard the same from some males.

Sadly marriage and or relationships no longer have the same meaning they used to have.  Now, it SEEMS, be it the media or whatever, relationships are more about control and manipulation of the other then about having a help mate.  It now SEEMS to be more about liberation then anything else.

It will take time.  It will take self-examination as well.  But don't beat yourself up over it!

You have to be who you are.  Try to find someone that will accept you for that.  AND learn to let them be who they are.

Changing one another to make things BETTER? just doesn't work!
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