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Offline Eagler

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« on: May 08, 2001, 09:35:00 AM »
MOTHER'S DAY BANNED . . .
 
May 8, 2001 -- PARENTS whose kids attend a pricey Manhattan private school are in an uproar over a new policy aimed at protecting the feelings of children raised by same-sex couples: Mother's Day has been banned.
And in the interest of fairness, Father's Day, too.

Students at Rodeph Sholom Day School on the Upper West Side, where tennis legend John McEnroe sends his children, came home Friday with an unusual note tucked into their book bags.

"I am writing this letter to inform you that after much thought and discussion this past year, we will not be celebrating Mother's Day and Father's Day," began the letter written by Cindi Samson, director of the school's lower elementary division.

"At this time, these holidays are not needed to enhance our writing and arts programs," the letter continued. "Second, families in our society are now diverse and varied.

"We are a school with many different family makeups, and we need to recognize the emotional well-being of all the children in our school. Holidays that serve no educational purpose and are not vital to the children's education need to be evaluated in terms of their importance in a school setting, as the recognition of these holidays in a social setting may not be a positive experience for all children."

When did the biblical commandment - "Honor thy father and thy mother" - become a threat to children's emotional well-being?

Said one outraged mother: "There are ways of showing sensitivity to the needs of children in unusual situations that don't require undermining traditional family structures.

"This is an inappropriate and politically correct response," said the mom, who asked not to be identified.

Rodeph Sholom, affiliated with a Reform Jewish synagogue, educates kids from age 2 through sixth grade. Tuition runs around $15,000 a year for pre-kindergarten, and just under $20,000 for grade 6.

The bans affect kids ages 4 and older; younger kids apparently are still permitted to celebrate Mother's Day, which is this coming Sunday. And Father's Day, which is June 17.

How did a seemingly innocent celebration become dangerous? Parents told me the school observes most Jewish and American holidays, such as Thanksgiving, by engaging children in art projects.

Last Mother's Day, kids made cards for their mommies. For Father's Day, they decorated soup cans for their dads to use as pen holders.

That ended last week, a parent said, when a man - who adopted his son with a male partner - boasted that he had persuaded administrators to remove Mother's Day from the school's holiday list.

Reached at school yesterday, Samson said the decision to cancel was not based on a single case.

"The reasoning was several-fold," Samson said. "One is, it didn't serve an academic and educational need. Number two, families are changing. Some children were very uncomfortable."

She pointed out that some kids have one parent. Or, "There may be two fathers, two mothers, the mother may not have custody, it could be a grandmother."

The school's headmaster, Irwin Schlachter, did not return a call.

One disappointed mother found the ban puzzling.

"I thought it was sweet that they spend some time thinking about their parents, making a little art project," said the mom, who suggested that kids without moms or dads make gifts for their grandparents.

Like most parents I interviewed, she feared speaking out would adversely affect her child, and asked not to be identified.

I'm not sure what's more fuzzy-headed: preventing kids from honoring their parents or believing that banning a celebration will somehow help kids who are not part of traditional families.

Kids don't live in a bubble. Not even on the Upper West Side.
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« Reply #1 on: May 08, 2001, 09:59:00 AM »
I am truly appawled at this.  For one thing why the hell would the parents remain anonymous?  I would speak out rather bluntly I don't care if the fudge packers or carpet munchers feelings might get hurt.  This is absolutely absurd.  What next?  Christmas?  Sometimes I really do hate all the PC people out there.  

All I have to say is go fu$k yourselves you tree humping democrats.  Guees this gives new meaning to "Hump day" for some which I am sure the gays will proactively state this is our day only.  God this toejam pisses me off.  

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« Reply #2 on: May 08, 2001, 10:26:00 AM »
AG Sachsenberg the problem with speaking out in public about this kind of thing is that the school can ban your kids and it's hard to find good private schools.

I agree that this PC BS is getting out of hand.

Tradition means nothing to the mentally ill.

Soon we will have to accept inter-species marriages just because we need to be "open minded and tolerant".

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« Reply #3 on: May 08, 2001, 10:36:00 AM »
Im sorry if I am spending that much money for school, I will voice my opinion.  My parents spent 10,000 a year to send me to catholic school from 1st-7th.  I wasn't a catholic and soon my 7th grade year we had it out with them.  Sorry if people feel they can let others walk over them that is fine.  

I don't like it I will voice it, and if you say well that must work wonders at your job.  To be honest it does for everyone knows I don't take toejam and I don't kiss people's asses.  And I am sorry but it is easy finding good private education, they are not the only one in town.  I guess pretty soon we need to turn this so that the str8's have rights too    

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« Reply #4 on: May 08, 2001, 10:42:00 AM »
Tree-humping Democrats?  Hmmm...sounds more like Elitist Republicans to me...

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« Reply #5 on: May 08, 2001, 10:59:00 AM »
ridiculous! but what do you expect from a headmaster named irving schlacter!? he needs a schlaxative  

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« Reply #6 on: May 08, 2001, 11:19:00 AM »
  The thing that P.O.'s me is that you have to have physiological testing to be a cop, but any head case is handed the password to our children minds. No questions asked.

  The math doesn't even work on this one. In a same sex family, Fathers day, or Mothers day should be double good for the kids.  That is the same amount of fun as a Fathers day, and a Mothers day, for the little ones.  I remember my son coming home, at age 5, beaming with pride, as he handed his mother a soggy (dropped in a rain puddle) hand made, Mothers day card.  The kids are the ones getting cheated.

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« Reply #7 on: May 08, 2001, 12:01:00 PM »
What educational purpose does mother's day serve?

None.

So let's skip it and be done with it.

Why mix sexuality into it?

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« Reply #8 on: May 08, 2001, 12:24:00 PM »
 
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Why mix sexuality into it?

That would be "sexual orientation".  Sexuality has a different meening.

And the strange thing is.. this was never an issue with single parents.  What about kids who had lost a parent, or only lived with one, or had divorced and re-married parents.  Not an issue.

But now, out of consideration for any confussion that might be attributed to same sex marriages accomodations aren't made... broad sweeping changes are made.

I sense a sensitivity double standard creeping in.  Nice to see its not exclusive to the west coast.

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« Reply #9 on: May 08, 2001, 12:36:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu:

I sense a sensitivity double standard creeping in.  Nice to see its not exclusive to the west coast.

AKDejaVu

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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2001, 12:40:00 PM »
 
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What educational purpose does mother's day serve?

It teaches our kids to love and respect their parents.

By your reasoning why celebrate ANY holidays at all?

What educational reasons do we have Christmas?  Or Labor day? or memorial day? or Martin Luther King Jr. day? or Presidents day and so on?(US holidays)

Each holiday teaches us something different or reminds us of something we shouldn't forget.

To take that away because of a few mentally ill people is wrong.
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2001, 12:42:00 PM »
Sorry, guys, I just have to interject my own f**king opinion here:

You know?  If everyone in this f**king world would treat every other f**kiing person with the same f**king respect that they so admantly f**king DEMAND for themselves, wouldn't this f**king world be a better f**king place to f**king live?????  

Btw, for those of you who are too f**king blind to see it, that's the golden f**king rule.

Think about it.

Buhdman, the f**king tree-hugging, bleeding f**king heart, died in the f**king wool liberal

BTW, Mighty1, what species are YOU planning to marry into?  

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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2001, 12:50:00 PM »
Been married 18 years and not quite sure what it is yet.

All I know is it squeakes a lot.
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2001, 12:53:00 PM »
Ditto to what Dejavu said.

Santa, you are 100 percent correct that this has nothing to do with education.  That means that the education of a child in a non-traditional family is not being hampered in any way by schools observing this holiday.  The exact same logic that you offer as concilliation to parent's in traditional families could and should be applied to the people who have sought out this change.

Their child's education is not hampered by this, so let it be.

You would find me strongly supporting this change if it did in fact have some sort of negative impact on any child's education, regardless of who their parents are.

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« Reply #14 on: May 08, 2001, 01:27:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Mighty1:
Been married 18 years and not quite sure what it is yet.  

All I know is it squeakes a lot.