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« Reply #15 on: June 01, 2006, 02:45:29 PM »
Heaven forbid, Michael Moore convinced 3 guys that its not fun to drive around on the streets of Iraq getting shot at.  

When are you volunteering for combat duty SeaGoon?

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« Reply #16 on: June 01, 2006, 02:49:58 PM »
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When asked about the use of lawsuits to combat the KKK and other supremist organizations, Mr Shamus replied.....


I'm not sure that I meant it exactly that way, however, the point is valid...

I'm the son of a doctor, and, thus, have generally stood in favor of certain tort reforms. I'm also a soon-to-be lawyer, and, in this light, must ask the question: how can a government decide what is reasonable and what is not, PRIOR to a meeting between plaintiff, defendant and judge? Isn't that what trials are for? To decide if something is right or wrong?

In this sense, tort reform seems to be a short cut to justice. Yes, all court cases must meet certain requirements before going to trial, but their fitness for trial should never be determined by blanket legislation. It should be determined by a judge. A person's right to compensation for a very public, potentially damaging misuse of a quote is not something that can be summarily ruled out.

Legally speaking, there is no set definition for the word 'frivolous'. There are only opinions. For opinion to carry legal significance, at least in the system established in this country, it must be tried.

Moore practiced, perhaps even abused his right to free speech, and profited greatly. This soldier deserves his day in court, plain and simple. Any nation that deprives him of this right should just go back to burning people at the stake for witchcraft.
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« Reply #17 on: June 01, 2006, 03:12:03 PM »
That big fat Micheal Moore said I was anti-war! I want 85 MILLION dolloars! Oh pah-lease!:rolleyes:

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« Reply #18 on: June 01, 2006, 03:24:11 PM »
Xrtoronto,

I think the soldier has a valid claim if he is misrepresented in the film....

BUT,

I don't think he has a legal leg to stand on if Moore bought the rights to use the orriginal documentary and then cut it up into the film.

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« Reply #19 on: June 01, 2006, 03:25:30 PM »
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That big fat Micheal Moore said I was anti-war! I want 85 MILLION dolloars! Oh pah-lease!:rolleyes:


85 million, maybe not. But perhaps you should check the following link.

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« Reply #20 on: June 01, 2006, 03:29:56 PM »
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Xrtoronto,

I think the soldier has a valid claim if he is misrepresented in the film....

BUT,

I don't think he has a legal leg to stand on if Moore bought the rights to use the orriginal documentary and then cut it up into the film.


I doubt that Moore bought rights to most, or, for that matter, any of the material in that film. He may have had them sign waivers beforehand. Michael Moore is many things, but stupid is not one of them. More than likely he covered his butt in one way or another.... Nevertheless, the fact that this potential case even made the papers would suggest that there might be more to it than a simple agreement and subsequent exploitation of said agreement.

One thing is for certain, however... Moore is fat.

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« Reply #21 on: June 01, 2006, 03:32:29 PM »
Like you Guns, I don't remember that part in F9/11. I honestly doubt MM would use unauthorised footage because he and his army of lawyers new that half the country would be out after him once he released this movie.  

This is the ONLY law suite re: F9/11 that I know of. Has there been ANY others? Seems to me that if there are sooooo many lies that many people would have sued by now and won?

Will be interesting to see how this all washes out.

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« Reply #22 on: June 01, 2006, 03:34:55 PM »
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Like you Guns, I don't remember that part in F9/11. I honestly doubt MM would use unauthorised footage because he and his army of lawyers new that half the country would be out after him once he released this movie.  

This is the ONLY law suite re: F9/11 that I know of. Has there been ANY others? Seems to me that if there are sooooo many lies that many people would have sued by now and won?

Will be interesting to see how this all washes out.


  Moore misrepresents alot of facts in the film and leads the veiwer to assume a lie.  Well in the same sense that "bush lied about WMDs" Moore is not really telling lies but yet not painting a very good/honest whole impression.

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« Reply #23 on: June 01, 2006, 05:05:18 PM »
Hello Aquashrimp,

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Heaven forbid, Michael Moore convinced 3 guys that its not fun to drive around on the streets of Iraq getting shot at.  

When are you volunteering for combat duty SeaGoon?


I hope you'll forgive me if I have to respectfully decline that particular honor. In addition to being 37, I'm kind of tied up supporting the military community here at home. I pastor a church in Fayetteville, home of Ft. Bragg, that is about 90% active duty military. The congregation used to be mostly SF (Green Berets) and their families, but of late the number of Airborne guys and their families has been increasing so we are currently about even. At present, 5 people from our congregation are either in Afghanistan or Iraq including one of my ruling elders, I am the man who will have to notify their wives if they are killed, injured, or missing.

Over the past 4 years both the U.S. military and their families have been under tremendous pressure. Most of the men in our congregation will spend between 6 to 9 months of every year away from their families, almost all of them in harms way and that alone creates a world of need both in indirect and direct support doing things like bringing meals, emergency babysitting, and doing all manner of odd jobs (for instance, last week I spent an afternoon fixing the toilet for the family of a deployed SF medic) and of course in counseling, hospital visits, and the like. I can honestly say that even though I was once a systems administrator and on call 24x7, since becoming a pastor in a military town I have never worked more in my life. Then again, I wouldn't give up my calling and go back to computing for all the money in the world.

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« Reply #24 on: June 01, 2006, 05:10:41 PM »
Ya..but did he sign the release papers?

if he did..too bad(and he should stfu)

if he didn't.?...I hope he sue's.
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2006, 06:09:13 PM »
I hope he wins, moore is an ass.

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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2006, 06:31:58 PM »
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When asked about the use of lawsuits to combat the KKK and other supremist organizations, Mr Shamus replied.....


Ah, so your against tort reform? good man!!!

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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2006, 09:38:26 PM »
I think that moore should land on a US Carrier and declare that major combat operations are not over.

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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2006, 09:49:47 PM »
i dont' think they can moor the K-class stuff on carriers anymore

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« Reply #29 on: June 01, 2006, 09:52:48 PM »
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Pongo wrote;
I think that moore should land on a US Carrier and declare that major combat operations are not over.


Sources claim they are working on it, and have delivered his lunch...