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Offline ispar

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« Reply #15 on: May 13, 2001, 03:52:00 PM »
Geez cabby, you've just reinforced my old suspicion that you are an escaped subject from a Reagan (maybe Nixon, even) era experiment in mind-control and brain washing. "The Republican Party is my master. As you say, oh great GOP... I will spout mindless rabid right-wing drivel in an attempt to undermine the evil leftists!"

  Forgot. I'm a nazi, communist, evil, immoral, corrupt, stupid, blind, ugly liberal. Wait. Let me say that again. I am a LIBERAL!!!! Take that all you right-wing conservative MORONS!!!             HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!! Especially you cabby!

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<edit> Whew! Simmer ispar, simmer... </edit>

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« Reply #16 on: May 13, 2001, 05:46:00 PM »
I agree WRT Ruby Ridge and McViegh...

The rest... nope. I'd vote for Clinton again if they'd let him run.  

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« Reply #17 on: May 14, 2001, 01:22:00 PM »
Limbaugh... pop goes jihad
Limbaugh... pop goes jihad
Limbaugh... pop goes jihad


You should see the doctor my friend. This obsession with Limbaugh can't be good for digestion.  

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« Reply #18 on: May 14, 2001, 02:51:00 PM »
Chuckle...well well, we got some people out of their shells, yes?

I enjoy Rush, while there are times I think he humm drumms on an issue a bit too long.  But he makes many valid points.  And that is that people in this country simply react to emotions rather than the facts.  Probably one of the best things that describes Clinton was when he was unaware the cameras where on him (I was watching CNN at the time) and he was going to approach the press and talk about his "Spiritual Counsel" in reaction to the Impeachment/lewinsky fiasco.  He was laughing it up with an aide, then when made aware a camera was aimed at him, changed his face to that of a solemn one and walked to the cameras with the ministers of choice.  To me, that validated a lot of what the right had been saying, this guy is a 2-faced moron that simply knows how to play the emotions of the masses.

And sadly, its true.  People respond to the emotional outcries of the left...watch the budget battles any given day and the Democratic leadership is all out LYING about their take on whatever they disagree with.  Recall that the left's ideal canidate was known, and famous for, his "exaagerated" tales.  Back here in Maine, we call that "lying", but the liberal press can't say that of its savior now, can it?


I enjoy a good debate, and my friends Dad is a diehard liberal who always wants to argue with me.  And the last few times, I back him into a corner and counter=pointed his every boo-hoo.  And you know he's outta ammo when he kicks his feet an yells "Bah, all politicians are crooked", and I point out "Especially yours".   Muhahha

The O'Reilly Factor is great, Bill's thoughts really mirror mine a great deal.  I am a registered republican because 9/10s of what they say, I like.  There are some Democratic ideas I think are ok too, but I disagree MORE with the Dems than I do the Republicans.

What's funny is that as of late, the Republicans are a much quieter party than they used to be, knowing that the democrats will always accuse, because that is what they are best at      They play a good victim.

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« Reply #19 on: May 14, 2001, 04:07:00 PM »
 Jihad,

 Can't you name just one?    I listened to him for about 7 years.  Don't remember hearing him spout one lie.  I do remember about 3 retractions/corrections that he made over the time that I listened to him though.
 

 LePaul,

 I think that was video of the Ron Brown (think that was his name) funeral.  Clinton was leaving, luaghing w/ a friend.  You see him glance at the camera out of the corner of his eye and within 1 step he's "crying".  Rush played that NIGHTLY on his TV show when it was on the air.  You don't by chance remember the "Rita-X" caller on his radio show do you?  SOOOOO many of the leftist on this board remind me of that poor lady, it's funny.

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« Reply #20 on: May 14, 2001, 04:38:00 PM »
 
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 LePaul,

 I think that was video of the Ron Brown (think that was his name) funeral.  Clinton was leaving, luaghing w/ a friend.  You see him glance at the camera out of the corner of his eye and within 1 step he's "crying".  Rush played that NIGHTLY on his TV show when it was on the air.  You don't by chance remember the "Rita-X" caller on his radio show do you?  SOOOOO many of the leftist on this board remind me of that poor lady, it's funny.

Udie


You know, you may be right....it was one of the many times he was acting "reverent and respectful"...so, hey, silly me mighta lost count!




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Offline jihad

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« Reply #21 on: May 14, 2001, 04:43:00 PM »
More Inaccuracy and Irrationality From Rush Limbaugh

If You Remember the 60's...You're Not Rush Limbaugh

LIMBAUGH: "The liberals sit out there and suggest, as Vic Fazio did, that it is the radical right that's acting in a stealth manner. And the Christians and the religious right are about to take over America.

 Note that Mr. Fazio probably had no trouble with the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King when he entered the political fray. The Democrats had no trouble with the Berrigan brothers during the Vietnam War era, and they were priests.

The Democrats had no trouble with Jerry Rubin and Abbie Hoffman entering the political fray and running the Students for a Democratic Society. In short, Democrats have never had any problem with liberal religious people being involved in politics."

REALITY: Where to begin? Rep. Vic Fazio probably didn't have any trouble with Martin Luther King's entering the political fray--he was 12 at the time of the 1955 Montgomery bus boycott that brought King to national prominence.

But Democrats certainly had a problem with King: He was wiretapped by President John Kennedy and his brother, Attorney General Robert Kennedy. Federal harassment of King intensified under Democratic President Lyndon Johnson.

"The Democrats had no trouble with the Berrigan brothers"? In fact, the brothers gained national attention through highly publicized protests against Johnson's Vietnam policies.

Neither Jerry Rubin nor Abbie Hoffman were religious leaders. They ran the Yippies, which was not connected to SDS. And no serious observer of the 1960s could claim that "the Democrats had no trouble" with the Yippies, who were most famous for their demonstrations at the 1968 Democratic Convention in Chicago.


"This Kind of Thing Goes on All the Time"

LIMBAUGH: Responding to comments by AFL-CIO President Lane Kirkland following the passage of NAFTA: "Lane Kirkland was asked, 'You mean you're going to take action to help the [opposition]?' 'Oh no no no. I'm not going to do that. But you can do damage by not doing anything.' That's vote suppression. Isn't it?... I mean, they're trying to nail Republicans and Ed Rollins to the wall, and they're trying to decertify Christie Whitman's election, and here's Lane Kirkland, brilliant man, chairman [sic] of the AFL-CIO, talking about how, 'Well, we just won't do anything,' and 'Hey, that hurts too.' So there you have it, a tantamount admission to vote suppression and an indication that this kind of thing goes on all the time."

REALITY: Limbaugh is comparing Kirkland's threat--that the AFL-CIO would not work for candidates who voted for NAFTA--to Ed Rollins' claim that he had paid black religious leaders to not get out the vote in the 1993 New Jersey election. One is politics; the other, if Rollins hadn't retracted his claim, would be a crime.

Man of the People
LIMBAUGH: "All of these rich guys--like the Kennedy family and Perot--pretending to live just like we do and pretending to understand our trials and tribulations and pretending to represent us, and they get away with this."

REALITY: Limbaugh biographer Paul Colford estimates that Limbaugh's earnings in 1994 will top $18 million (Newsday, 8/4/94).


Lyin' King
LIMBAUGH: "On April 23, 1994, a woman named Barbara Schoener, 40 years old, was killed by an 82-pound mountain lion in El Dorado County, California.... She has two kids and a husband. The collection fund had been started for a trust fund for the kids and their education, but at the same time a companion fund had been started by a bunch of animal rights activists for the orphaned lion cubs.... As of May 23, the orphaned mountain lion had received $21,000 in donations and Barbara Schoener's two kids had received around $9,000."

REALITY: Long after this story got debunked, Limbaugh continued to repeat it. On May 31, Folsom City Zoo offical Terry Jenkins sent a letter to Limbaugh correcting an earlier broadcast: "There has never been a 'trust fund for the kitten' as you reported, nor any other fundraising efforts by the zoo or anyone else (with the exception of $36 raised by the coffee store across the street). There certainly have not been any 'animal rights people' deciding to set one up as you claim they have." ABC's 20/20 debunked the story on June 4, with Barbara Walters concluding: "Unsolicited public donations have come in for the cub, but so far they total less than $3,000, so people do care more about children than cubs." Yet more than a month later, Limbaugh was still sticking with his distorted version.

 
 Udie;

Just a few examples of Limbaughs lies and distortions of reality. Would you like me to add some more?  

Limbaugh... pop goes jihad
Limbaugh... pop goes jihad
Limbaugh... pop goes jihad

You should see the doctor my friend. This obsession with Limbaugh can't be good for digestion.


Heh, I just use Limbaugh as a figurehead of conservative Republican "values", if I had a picture of Cabby I would have pasted his head onto Adolphs book cover.  

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« Reply #22 on: May 14, 2001, 05:58:00 PM »
 
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[BMan of the People
LIMBAUGH: "All of these rich guys--like the Kennedy family and Perot--pretending to live just like we do and pretending to understand our trials and tribulations and pretending to represent us, and they get away with this."

REALITY: Limbaugh biographer Paul Colford estimates that Limbaugh's earnings in 1994 will top $18 million (Newsday, 8/4/94).


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Big deal, so he's grappled his way to the top of Talk Radio for over 12 years, he's successful and you nix him over the fact he's successful?  Only a liberal....

Why don't you knock down all those other out-of-toucher's like Streissand, Clinton and the Kennedy's who claim to be "for the people" but would turn their nose up at breaking for lunch at the local Wendy's like us working folk  

Once again, your credibility is zilch.  I suppose my friend Bill O'Reilly doesnt know what he's talking about since his show has become #1 and he has begun to enjoy some success?




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Offline jihad

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« Reply #23 on: May 14, 2001, 06:22:00 PM »
Big deal, so he's grappled his way to the top of Talk Radio for over 12 years, he's successful and you nix him over the fact he's successful? Only a liberal....

I report the truth and it makes me a liberal?

Bill Clinton grappled his way to the Presidency by being a liar and sleazebag,and you nix him because hes successful? Only a tight assed conservative.... The hipocracy is sickening.

Why don't you knock down all those other out-of-toucher's like Streissand, Clinton and the Kennedy's who claim to be "for the people" but would turn their nose up at breaking for lunch at the local Wendy's like us working folk

Yep, the clowns you mention are scum.

Once again, your credibility is zilch. I suppose my friend Bill O'Reilly doesnt know what he's talking about since his show has become #1 and he has begun to enjoy some success?

How do facts hurt my credibility, and what does Bill O'Reilly have to do with it?

If he distorts the truth for his own personal gain then IMO he's just another denizen of the cesspool that Rush was born from.

If you like to be spoonfed your opinions on political matters thats your problem - all I can say is it sucks to be you.

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« Reply #24 on: May 14, 2001, 10:05:00 PM »
Actually, I would have to say the Most Corrupt Administration was the Reagan/Bush Iran/Contra Scandal that the American public never got to the bottom of. It was obvious who the fall guys were (I know Ollie and Fawn were just shredding documents because they didn't have anything better to do.) This is all tied into the Octopus investigation (Government/Organized Crime/Military Indutrial Complex connections) and really consisted of the executive branch of gov't. (George Bush and Ronald Reagan) acting as the sole branch of government devoid of the other checks and balances. This probably could have been construed as trying to overthrow the government and, therefore, Treason. I can only say that Presidents who engage in this conduct scare me a hell of a lot more then those who get a good B.J.

Also, now that G.W. is in, look for him to cut military spending like Daddy and Cheney did before.

Rush Limbaugh? You mean he isn't a Comedian? ROFL.

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« Reply #25 on: May 14, 2001, 11:12:00 PM »
Actually, I would have to say the Most Corrupt Administration was the Reagan/Bush Iran/Contra Scandal that the American public never got to the bottom of.

Careful Sundog - that opinion will get you tarred and feathered by the <LOL> Conservative Republicans.  

Their "selective memories" will paint RaYguNz administration as a shining example of American political purity - even if he was a dishonest scumbag and possibly the worst president in recent history.

The only legacy of his worth remembering is his rebuilding a military shattered by Vietnam - for that accomplishment he gets placed one level above Clinton, otherwise he would be tied for last place.

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