AP: U.S. to Give Iran Nuclear Technology

[Brenjen]

Iranian air force F-14 story


 Also known for me as, you learn something new everyday...I thought it was only F-4's also.

[Debonair]

i'm surprised nobody has piped in yet suggest the method of supplying nuclear technology or iran be bouncing a Castle Bravo off their turban.  someone should do that, zOMG it would be teh funnuy ROfL:noid

[1K3]

Originally posted by Ripsnort
Tomcats? I thought they were F-4's?  Why would Iran need Tomcats? They're a fleet protection aircraft.

Prior Ayatolah Khomeini's reign, the Shah of Iran (Mohammad Reza Shah Pahlavi), enjoyed full support from Western countries.  He was interested in protecting Iran and its oil fields by purchasing either the F-14s (remember, this is the 60s/70s world politics)

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Look at these fine Persian Cats

[SFRT - Frenchy]

Rip. maybe they used the range of the radar as AWAC, like the Russians used to have a flight of 4 Mig31 cover a 1,000k+ border.

[Brenjen]

I would imagine these cats have been nuetered, much like the "castrated lightenings" we provided to Britain in WWII.

[Rolex]

When the shah was deposed, Iran cancelled future American weapons contracts. The shah deposited $10 billion just prior to the overthrow for future purchases and maintenance contracts. When the new government called in the US ambassador to cancel the future contracts and return the $10 billion, the US response was to seize the money and dare Iran to do something about it.

One of the main reasons the US embassy was seized was in response to that dare. The $10 billion was returned to Iran and the hostages were released, as promised, but the timing was set as a final tweaking of the nose at the US State Department.

[Gunslinger]

US offer's throat to Iran

[Excel1]

Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy


By GEORGE JAHN, Associated Press Writer
38 minutes ago

VIENNA, Austria - A package of incentives presented Tuesday to Iran includes a provision for the United States to supply Tehran with some nuclear technology if it stops enriching uranium _ a major concession by Washington, diplomats said.

The US, and other countries for that matter, giving nuclear technology to Iran is not exactly a new idea.

http://www.nti.org/e_research/profiles/1825_1826.html

From 1974:

The US Secretary of State tells the US ambassador to Iran that the United States is prepared to explore possibilities of cooperation with Iran and that the Chairman of the US Atomic Energy Commission is prepared to go to Tehran with a group of experts to explore the best avenues for cooperation with Iran in the field of nuclear energy.

Although his mouth may have been bigger, apparently the shah had big plans:

The Shah of Iran says that Iran will have nuclear weapons, "without a doubt and sooner than one would think." The statement is denied by Iran's embassy in France, and the Shah later backs off the statement, reaffirming that "not only Iran, but also other nations in the region should refrain from planning to gain atomic arsenals

Yeah.. right.

Shame about the revolution. He was such a nice guy too.

Excel

[Westy]

Clinton "gives" North Korea  (a hard core wierdo-communist country lead by a psycho-pinko nutjob so horrible he makes Stalin look like an Oregonian tree hugging liberal)  it's nuke capability and now Bush gives Iran, an Islamist fundies paradise, the same?

 Now Islamic terrorists could soon use a nuke on some US city, cause so many of you neocons say it is absolutely going to happen,  and it'll have "Merry X-Mas Ahmadinejad!  Bestest Wishes,  Georgey Bush"  on it.  

  That's just super.  

  Isn't this appeasement?  Isn't this "Peace in our time." all over again?  Is ol'George really Chamberlain reincarnated? Since so many of you neo-cons say we're at war and Iran is a solid partner in the "Axis of Evil" wouldn't this be like giving Hitler the secret to splitting the atom back in '44?
 Are Bush and the Western powers reenacting events from 1939 to set the stage for something bigger?
 
 Er, where's the outrage?

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Westy
Clinton "gives" North Korea  (a hard core wierdo-communist country lead by a psycho-pinko nutjob so horrible he makes Stalin look like an Oregonian tree hugging liberal)  it's nuke capability and now Bush gives Iran, an Islamist fundies paradise, the same?

 Now Islamic terrorists could soon use a nuke on some US city, cause so many of you neocons say it is absolutely going to happen,  and it'll have "Merry X-Mas Ahmadinejad!  Bestest Wishes,  Georgey Bush"  on it.  

  That's just super.  

  Isn't this appeasement?  Isn't this "Peace in our time." all over again?  Is ol'George really Chamberlain reincarnated? Since so many of you neo-cons say we're at war and Iran is a solid partner in the "Axis of Evil" wouldn't this be like giving Hitler the secret to splitting the atom back in '44?
 Are Bush and the Western powers reenacting events from 1939 to set the stage for something bigger?
 
 Er, where's the outrage?

There's plenty of outrage here, but the left wasn't outraged at Clinton, they hailed him as a foreign relations masterpiece.

FYI, If memory serves me (I was 34 at the time...) Clinton was critisized by the right for giving money to NK knowing that it wasn't going to feed a starving civilian population, but help further expand NK's nuclear ambitions.... and it did, people continued to starve and NK got the money it needed to further develope the weapons it has today.

[~Caligula~]

Maybe we should just gater up all politicians in all places, stand them against a wall and get it over with. They just keep f*ing up anyways..

[Westy]

Just to clarify - I didn't like Clinton. Didn't vote for him.   And I certainly don't like Bush and absolutely didn't vote for him either. I am extremley anti-Bush (him and his whole administration) but never think for a moment I was a Clinton Clingon.

 I find the hypocrisy and silence from the vast majority of "neo-cons" to be funny.  They've made a joke of themselves imo. Well, they always have. This is just another good chuckle.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Westy
Just to clarify - I didn't like Clinton. Didn't vote for him.   And I certainly don't like Bush and absolutely didn't vote for him either. I am extremley anti-Bush (him and his whole administration) but never think for a moment I was a Clinton Clingon.

 I find the hypocrisy and silence from the vast majority of "neo-cons" to be funny.  They've made a joke of themselves imo. Well, they always have. This is just another good chuckle.

Who is this "Vast majority"?

[Westy]

Vast majority?  The other "neocons" on this webboard.   You know who they are (you're one of them) and if you act like you don't then you're playing games.



"gater up all politicians in all places"

 All?  IMO I think that would be a good idea for the "career" politicians like the Bushes and the Kennedy's.

[Ripsnort]

Originally posted by Westy
Vast majority?  The other "neocons" on this webboard.   You know who they are (you're one of them) and if you act like you don't then you're playing games.



"gater up all politicians in all places"

 All?  IMO I think that would be a good idea for the "career" politicians like the Bushes and the Kennedy's.

Name names. I'll show you what their political scores were on a couple different political tests. I've yet to meet a true neocon on this board.