Author Topic: Fire flying??? (Read 1048 times)

bkbandit · « **on:** June 07, 2006, 10:43:03 AM »

In at least 5 different fights i have seen zeros on fire, fly for over a minute. In the last verison as soon as a zero caught fire save ammo and break off, 3-5 seconds and dead. I mean cmon, these planes didnt have self sealing fuel tanks, it caught fire it blew up period.

Bly · « **Reply #1 on:** June 07, 2006, 11:30:37 AM »

havn't noticed since i don't get too many kills:D if so that leaves plenty of time for others to pounce on your kill and steal it....not that anyone would do that:lol

Krusty · « **Reply #2 on:** June 07, 2006, 12:27:40 PM »

I don't care how long they burn (well, I care, but not that much).

What I'd like to request is that fire go a long way toward awarding "kill points". As-is you can set a plane on fire and then somebody else can get the kill. I'd rather set the plane on fire then pull away safely and know that it was goind down one way or another. Then somebody cherry picks it while it's falling from the sky and steals a kill I earned

Oh well.

Same goes for bombers! How many times have I lit an entire formation of B24s on fire (multiple fires per plane, no less!!!) only to get 3 assists because some suicide LA7 flies up behind them and shoots at them before losing engine, oil, and wings.

Fire should tilt the scales. If you SET the fire, you get the kill, under most situations. I'll leave the real code up to HTC, but that's my request.

Karnak · « **Reply #3 on:** June 07, 2006, 12:28:09 PM »

A6Ms have always lasted about a minute while on fire.

Mossies last about 25 seconds.

Clifra Jones · « **Reply #4 on:** June 07, 2006, 12:49:41 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't care how long they burn (well, I care, but not that much).

What I'd like to request is that fire go a long way toward awarding "kill points". As-is you can set a plane on fire and then somebody else can get the kill. I'd rather set the plane on fire then pull away safely and know that it was goind down one way or another. Then somebody cherry picks it while it's falling from the sky and steals a kill I earned

Oh well.

Same goes for bombers! How many times have I lit an entire formation of B24s on fire (multiple fires per plane, no less!!!) only to get 3 assists because some suicide LA7 flies up behind them and shoots at them before losing engine, oil, and wings.

Fire should tilt the scales. If you SET the fire, you get the kill, under most situations. I'll leave the real code up to HTC, but that's my request.

I agree Krusty. The .longer the fire burns the more it should count towards damage points. That coad change may be a ways off though.

Lusche · « **Reply #5 on:** June 07, 2006, 01:26:20 PM »

Yesterday I attacked a formation Lancs escorted by a P47N. Set the Thunderbolt afire. Then attacked the Lancs together with a few other guys. Thunderbolt continued to burn..for 3 min 28 sec! And I am not sure if the fire was the reason for the eventual death, the P47s driver was flying with a pilot wound.

Oleg · « **Reply #6 on:** June 07, 2006, 02:27:42 PM »

Even if you burn him, you didnt kill him yet. He still can fly, shoot and kill if lucky. In other words he still a threat. And as long as he is a threat you cannt blame others for "steal" you kill. If you want a kill make sure he is not a threat any more.

P.S. Dont want to say it always valid, depending on actual situation.

Murdr · « **Reply #7 on:** June 07, 2006, 03:03:16 PM »

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Originally posted by Krusty
I don't care how long they burn (well, I care, but not that much).

What I'd like to request is that fire go a long way toward awarding "kill points". As-is you can set a plane on fire and then somebody else can get the kill. I'd rather set the plane on fire then pull away safely and know that it was goind down one way or another. Then somebody cherry picks it while it's falling from the sky and steals a kill I earned

Same goes for bombers! How many times have I lit an entire formation of B24s on fire (multiple fires per plane, no less!!!) only to get 3 assists because some suicide LA7 flies up behind them and shoots at them before losing engine, oil, and wings.

Fire should tilt the scales. If you SET the fire, you get the kill, under most situations. I'll leave the real code up to HTC, but that's my request.

Agreed

Debonair · « **Reply #8 on:** June 07, 2006, 04:56:47 PM »

when a flaming plane blows up, we should have the bowling alley sound effect from The Fighting lady

ded · « **Reply #9 on:** June 07, 2006, 05:54:48 PM »

if you set someone on fire, they should be your kill. the only exception for this should be if the pilot managed to land safely.

SFRT - Frenchy · « **Reply #10 on:** June 09, 2006, 12:29:06 AM »

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Originally posted by Lusche
Yesterday I attacked a formation Lancs escorted by a P47N. Set the Thunderbolt afire. Then attacked the Lancs together with a few other guys. Thunderbolt continued to burn..for 3 min 28 sec! And I am not sure if the fire was the reason for the eventual death, the P47s driver was flying with a pilot wound.

There is a bug on the P47N, if you are hit at the right fuel tank, it will leack and your plane will be set ablaze, even if the tank is umpty. Thus the burning but not dying syndrome. It happened to me 3 times, each time I flew around till I landed. I have the vids too.

Krusty · « **Reply #11 on:** June 09, 2006, 07:58:42 AM »

Good to know. I hope it's been reported!

Mace2004 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 09, 2006, 10:38:54 AM »

Problem I see with fire is that HT apparently doesn't model the associated drag rise. A massive fuel leak and fire completely disrupts airflow and makes an aircraft almost unflyable, especially a fighter. While I understand the desire to give the guy an opportunity to disengage, bail out or attempt a landing, there is no way a flaming Zeke (or any other fighter) would still be capable of ACM. Let them burn for a minute if they want (unlikely with aviation gas) but award the kill to whoever set them on fire and raise the drag to make it impossible to continue a fight.

Mace

Debonair · « **Reply #13 on:** June 09, 2006, 01:41:20 PM »

they can roll into the flaming wing very effectively

bkbandit · « **Reply #14 on:** June 09, 2006, 02:31:13 PM »

yea i see them burning and keep goin like its ok. IF they went out of controll and started to go down instead of comin after u i doubt people will come to finish them off, unless there being gay and tryin to steal points.

2 minutes ago i came up on a la7(big surprise) and i take his wing off. I broke off and let him drop, but i get an assist? I think AH has to rework the scoreing system.