Supremes and lethal injection cruelty

[nirvana]

Well Raider14 considers lethal injection mentally cruel because you know you are gonna die, you can ask him to enlighten you if you want.  Otherwise I think a few states havie firing squad, some have the gas chamber, hanging, lethal injection, or the electric chair.

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Maverick
This story showed up today.

I think it's pure and unadulterated BS in this situation. Lethal injection is certainly far kinder than the death those inmates provided for their victims.

You know... what's wrong with the Supreme Court opening this up to a challenge? If the challenger can prove to the satisfaction of the court that it is indeed cruel, than the state should find another way. If not, it's business as usual.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Sandman
You know... what's wrong with the Supreme Court opening this up to a challenge? If the challenger can prove to the satisfaction of the court that it is indeed cruel, than the state should find another way. If not, it's business as usual.

Much ado about nothing, IMHO.

Well, what's wrong is that we've moved from any number of violent and possibly very painful methods to a method that is very similar to how a surgical patient is anesthetized, except of course that the criminal does not wake up (some times the patient doesn't either). As I sated up thread, ANY manner or method of execution will ALWAYS be challenged as "cruel and unusual" since the subject is in fact being EXECUTED. Again, as I stated up thread, the best solution is to rephrase it to read "UNREASONABLY cruel and unusual". So no, it is NOT much ado about nothing. There is no way you will EVER find an execution method that NO ONE will find to be "cruel and unusual". The challenges will go on FOREVER. The ONLY ONE not paying the bill is the CRIMINAL.

[Speed55]

We are definitely becoming a bunch of panzies.

There is a reason they were chosen to be executed, and  I see that one of these guys has been on death row since 1985.  That's alot of tax dollars wasted on living expenses for someone that has been sentenced to death.

I don't think any victim that was murdered had more that a few hours to plead for there lives, let alone 21 YEARS. And the ones that actually had those precious few hours, most definitely were facing cruel and unsual punishment.

They should hang them, and the following day it should be on the front page of every newspaper in the state.

"So and so was put to death today for the murder of victimx last month. Remember kids, to stay in school and drink your ovaltine."

[Sandman]

Originally posted by Captain Virgil Hilts
Well, what's wrong is that we've moved from any number of violent and possibly very painful methods to a method that is very similar to how a surgical patient is anesthetized, except of course that the criminal does not wake up (some times the patient doesn't either). As I sated up thread, ANY manner or method of execution will ALWAYS be challenged as "cruel and unusual" since the subject is in fact being EXECUTED. Again, as I stated up thread, the best solution is to rephrase it to read "UNREASONABLY cruel and unusual". So no, it is NOT much ado about nothing. There is no way you will EVER find an execution method that NO ONE will find to be "cruel and unusual". The challenges will go on FOREVER. The ONLY ONE not paying the bill is the CRIMINAL.

Once lethal injection is challenged and ruled upon by the Supreme Court, do you think the court will waste its time with later challenges of the same thing?

I don't think so.

As for rephrasing the Constitution, I'm against it. I think the 8th Amendment is fine the way it is.

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Originally posted by Sandman
Once lethal injection is challenged and ruled upon by the Supreme Court, do you think the court will waste its time with later challenges of the same thing?

I don't think so.

As for rephrasing the Constitution, I'm against it. I think the 8th Amendment is fine the way it is.

They are accepting the challenge on lethal injection this time, what makes you think they won't accept continual challenges? it will be challenged, again, and again, and again. Every time ANY court changes it will be challenged again.

Once more, ANY method of execution will continually be challenged as "cruel and unusual" from now until infinity, or in perpetuity, whichever you prefer.

[Sandman]

There is such a thing as precedent. I'm okay with letting the system work the way it's supposed to.

[Fishu]

Nuh huh...  if the punishment is too cruel for them to bear then they should have thought it before they went to kill innocent people. Usually cruel things happen to criminals, whether it was being locked in a box 18 hours a day or put to death by an injection. Most of the time they themselves are to blame for it. With little thought they could've avoided ending up in cruel circumstances unlike their victims.
Oh well, maybe some day we'll get enough of thinking such useless details as cruelty on convicted murderers and we'll begin to concentrate on more useful thoughts again.

[101ABN]

they call the execution cruel and unusual.... ha ha ha... how about the victim... think about how some of the victims find their end... recently a lady was strangled by her own bikini top.. imagine how she felt... getting choked out... watching the man on top of her doing it... i dont feel sorry for the perps... life for a life is what i say.. i feel they should be executed by the means they used to kill the victim..  

i cant believe how our judicial system has become so.... sissified..

[Shuckins]

Personally, I have long felt that murderers who have received the death penalty should be turned over to the families of their victims for execution of sentence.  Whatever they wanted to do to them would be perfectly okay.

It might be cruel and unusual, but it would certainly be justice, as well as giving the lie to the argument that the death penalty has no deterrent effect.

[101ABN]

We learned in my Cultural Anthropology class that there are some cultures out there that do just that... let the family carry out the punishment... it we were to bring back all the fun ways to execute someone, i think that some criminals would think twice about what they are about to do.... well wishfull thinking anyways..

bring back public stoning!!!!! ha ha ha ha  I could be the monday night football preshow!!!