Response to Al "Chicken Little" Gore

[Dos Equis]

Originally posted by GreenCloud
AL GORE SAYS
An “over representation of factual representations?”  Not only is he admitting there are lies in his new movie, but he is saying it is okay as long as it is for a good cause.  Don’t let the facts get in the way of you Incontinent Truth.

Ya...global warming...man is bad..Buuusch is satan

You guys are like little birdies, waiting for Hannity & Colmes to feed you the slander of the day.

over-representing facts is not exaggeration. Kind of a nuanced point, perhaps, and certainly lost on you "plain speakin" folks.

[lukster]

Originally posted by Dos Equis
You guys are like little birdies, waiting for Hannity & Colmes to feed you the slander of the day.

over-representing facts is not exaggeration. Kind of a nuanced point, perhaps, and certainly lost on you "plain speakin" folks.

It's pretty ambiguous which when you stop and think about it is appropriate considering the topic. But preach on brother Gore, you're gettin' plenty amens from the faithful.

[indy007]

Originally posted by Dos Equis
You guys are like little birdies, waiting for Hannity & Colmes to feed you the slander of the day.

over-representing facts is not exaggeration. Kind of a nuanced point, perhaps, and certainly lost on you "plain speakin" folks.

ex·ag·ger·ate    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (g-zj-rt)
v. ex·ag·ger·at·ed, ex·ag·ger·at·ing, ex·ag·ger·ates
v. tr.
To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate: exaggerate the size of the enemy force; exaggerated his own role in the episode.
To enlarge or increase to an abnormal degree: thick lenses that exaggerated the size of her eyes.

v. intr.
To make overstatements.

exaggeration

n 1: extravagant exaggeration [syn: hyperbole] 2: the act of making something more noticeable than usual; "the dance involved a deliberate exaggeration of his awkwardness" 3: making to seem more important than it really is [syn: overstatement, magnification] [ant: understatement]


I think dictionary.com disagrees.

[lukster]

I think ole Dos meant that "plain spoken" comment to be jab. I'll take plain spoken honesty over intellectually eloquent prevarication 7 days a week.

[indy007]

Originally posted by Dos Equis
You're right, it's the Illinois river.

http://www.argentco.com/htm/f20060508.377356.htm

I would like to smack some regulation down on Tyson farms, if I could get past the fact they own every elected official in the state of Arkansas. So much so that Oklahoma had to do the suin'.

As for the rest, when you equated tax with punishment - you said everything we needed to know.

I said earlier in this thread we should fix local problems first. Thanks for finally agreeing with me. Now, that article says of many farms, a number are associated with Tyson foods. It doesn't even say what number. Now, you can tax Tyson foods for where their supplier is located. Somebody has to pay, and it should be Tyson because they're the evil corporation. Well... that's your idea. I happen to think there's better solutions out there than relying on our government. I'd be willing to be there's people on this board who know a thing or two about irrigation and could propose a solid, cost-effective solution to controlling the runoff.

You have to be the best troll ever. You've got me hooked. I didn't know it was possible for somebody to scream about corrupt government that's in bed with corporations, and then expect the government to know best and punish those evil corporations with taxes. Big Government is only good at talking about problems, not doing anything about it. It doesn't matter who's in charge.

[Yeager]

Words for the wise:  Beware the progressive socialist elitist that try to subvert this board with indignity.  They come off as real smart and happily degrade plain speaking (aka straight talking) folk but all they really are is fancy talking self righteous bigots.

[Dos Equis]

Originally posted by Yeager
Words for the wise:  Beware the progressive socialist elitist that try to subvert this board with indignity.  They come off as real smart and happily degrade plain speaking (aka straight talking) folk but all they really are is fancy talking self righteous bigots.

And secular humanists. Don't forget that.

[Dos Equis]

Originally posted by indy007
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You have to be the best troll ever. You've got me hooked. I didn't know it was possible for somebody to scream about corrupt government that's in bed with corporations, and then expect the government to know best and punish those evil corporations with taxes. Big Government is only good at talking about problems, not doing anything about it. It doesn't matter who's in charge.

Quite in line with my anti-federalist leanings. Those hick state governments need real intellectuals from Washington to keep them from letting the local business baron run roughshod over them.

[Dos Equis]

Originally posted by indy007
ex�ag�ger�ate    ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (g-zj-rt)
v. ex�ag�ger�at�ed, ex�ag�ger�at�ing, ex�ag�ger�ates
v. tr.
To represent as greater than is actually the case; overstate: exaggerate the size of the enemy force; exaggerated his own role in the episode.
To enlarge or increase to an abnormal degree: thick lenses that exaggerated the size of her eyes.

v. intr.
To make overstatements.

exaggeration
I think dictionary.com disagrees.

As I said, nuanced. Too nuanced for you.

Bringing up facts and more facts and keep harping on all the studies that show global warming to be real - thats over representing the facts. He shouldnt have to harp and harp on it, except he knows that there are still backwater folks who deny that global warming even exists.

As for liar, well that's a stretch. Better than a guy who doesn't even know reality:

Bush in September of 2004:

"And as a result of the United States military, Taliban no longer is in existence. And the people of Afghanistan are now free. (Applause.) In other words when you say something as President you better make it clear so everybody understands what you're saying, and you better mean what you say."

This months press conference:

"BLITZER: Let's move on and talk about some other issues. I know your time is limited. Afghanistan. Is the Taliban making a serious comeback right now?

SNOW: I think what the Taliban is doing -- and it's predictable -- is that they are trying to test in the south, where the U.S. forces are handing over to NATO...But A, it's predictable, and B, in the encounters, as you know, the Taliban fighters have overwhelmingly been losing. Now, I think it is predictable...you can expect there to be pushback by the Taliban."

Wow. Pushback from something that doesn't even EXIST.

Now that's some trick of language.

[lukster]

Al's wasting his time. Hillary will never let him run again and he doesn't wanna cross her. He might wind up in that other thread.

[Yeager]

And secular humanists. Don't forget that.
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nah...its a might sum we be better else talkin bout the one thing first then other some time later on a spell.  Dont ya rekkon?

[lazs2]

dos ekk...LOL... you are so transparent...  Ok, so you like socialism and big government but the best you can do is repeat the mantra of all limosine liberals in that the "poor" republicans (or those who vote republican) are just too...... stupid... to know what is best for them....

You, and the christian socialist monitor, wonder why the JFK democrats are gone...  They are gone because the democratic party left em... the democrats want to indocrtrinate their children and take away their rights to bear arms and tax them into oblivion and ban everything in sight including the family pickup.while ruining marriage and making us pay for it...

So tell me... are you liberals really that dumb?  Do you really believe that the repuplicans are just people who have been conned and are too stupid to know what is good for them or..... is it simply that your arrogant and elitist message is so bad that they shun you?

As for opportunity.... the opportunity is there....You don't want to compete in a free market.... you want a government controlled and mandated one so that your junk science has a chance against real inventors and a real free marketplace..

like asbestos and mold.... your idea of "opportunity" is for the government or some lawyers to invent a crisis and then for the government to come up with bans and regulations based on the junk science so that all the flim flam men can rush in.

As an example... there are some really bright guys working on solar but they got screwed by the government...  The government offered "incentives" for installing solar electrical systems.... every flim flam man is putting up whatever junk they can get... so long as it is the cheapest and worst there is... The real incentive.... the incentive to make better panels is lost to the "incentive" to make a lot of money on anthing you can throw on the roof..

That is the kind of government help you are asking us to buy into.

I don't like your politics and I don't like the way you do business.   I would very much like to never have to deal with you.... but you know that don't you?  that is why you want the government to force me to.

lazs

[lukster]

I think this guy pegged it:

"I have been attending fundamentalist churches for the last 20 years, and have gone to countless conferences during that time. I can't remember a single time when positions were taken in those meetings that were so pompous, so biased, or so lacking in humility. Those in the leadership of the Christian "right" never say that the debate is over. In this conference, that was the refrain. I think there is a problem in our scientific community. The consequence of this problem may only result in horrible science, but it could result in tyranny."

http://ideaplace.blogspot.com/2006/06/extreme-bias-of-scientists-at-global.html

[lazs2]

lukster... that could also be a defining feature of liberals... they enjoy making fun of anyone who doesn't tow the line and poking fun at other peoples saints..... but

dare anyone make fun of their saints.... the teachers/professors  and the in the pocket "scientists" and the liberal politicians....

make fun of those saints and your average liberal goes into a selfrightious and apopleptic rage.

lazs

[bj229r]

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/6/20/134405.shtml?s=ic

 In an unprecedented, uninterrupted eight-minute monologue on Keith Olbermann’s "Countdown," Gore characterized those scientists who dispute the reality of global warming as part of a lunatic fringe.

Later, on Charlie Rose’s show, Gore went further. Asked by Rose "Do you know any credible scientist who says ‘wait a minute – this hasn’t been proven,’ is there still a debate?” Gore replied, "The debate’s over. The people who dispute the international consensus on global warming are in the same category now with the people who think the moon landing was staged on a movie lot in Arizona.”

This flies in the face of such challengers as professor Bob Carter of the Marine Geophysical Laboratory at James Cook University, in Australia who said: "Gore's circumstantial arguments are so weak that they are pathetic. It is simply incredible that they, and his film, are commanding public attention."

Famed climatologist and internationally renowned hurricane expert Dr. William Gray of the atmospheric-science department at Colorado State University went even further, calling the scientific "consensus" on global warming "one of the greatest hoaxes ever perpetrated on the American people." For speaking the truth he has seen most of his government research funding dry up, according to the Washington Post.