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Offline Toad

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« Reply #15 on: February 13, 2001, 11:09:00 PM »
Treaties are always open to renegotiation. Been done thousands of times.

However, I do think the "suitcase nuke" scenario is much more likely than ICBM delivery. As towd mentioned, our borders are wide open. You want to worry about something? Worry about THAT threat. Chemical, nuke, biological...anytime they want to I'd suspect.

That notwithstanding, research into ABM technology should continue. The day will come when you can hit a bullet with a bullet. It's what computers are about, isn't it? (Remember when we played DOS AW on a 386SX? Now who'd have projected AH on 1 Gig Athlons at that time?) May take a while, but we'd ALL be foolish <the entire world> to think that sort of technology will never be needed.

Further, the guidance technology/programming for "bullet v bullet" is applicable in a lot of other scenarios, not just against ICBMS.

So, negotiate a new treaty, let research continue and lets not be in such a hurry to deploy anything.
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« Reply #16 on: February 13, 2001, 11:44:00 PM »
Sounds sensible Toad. It just seems as if Bush is very much up to pushing it through, no matter what. And to me violating a treaty yet punishing oher nations with as acute a need seems like double standards.

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« Reply #17 on: February 13, 2001, 11:54:00 PM »
Santa, like the perk system, why don't we just wait and see how this one plays out in Congress?

Even Mr. Greenspan is getting a little nervous about the "booming" economy little Billy left behind (chill, Nash...it's a joke. Presidents ride the economic tiger, they don't steer it.   ) I sort of doubt we'll be spending zillions on stuff that is still pretty theoretical military hardware.

Save those "worry cells" for something that might really affect you in the near term.  
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« Reply #18 on: February 13, 2001, 11:57:00 PM »
 
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So, negotiate a new treaty, let research continue and lets not be in such a hurry to deploy anything.

I could live with that...LITERALLY  

StSanta, In a way the russians are the one who mucked up the treaty, they didnt necessarly violate it, but by doing the unristricted selling of the nukes to ANYBODY, they completely undermined the whole purpose of the treaty.  They negated all the good things it could do and now we are left with all the possible down sides to, with none of the benifits.  


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« Reply #19 on: February 14, 2001, 02:32:00 AM »
Toad, aye, I'm with you on that one.

With all the cuts, tax stuff and raises etc and a slowing economy, I kinda wondered where you'd get all the cash from.

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