Why the Arabs Hate the Jews

[RAM]

And Wotan, maybe if you stop and think WHO is sending kids with stones against APCs, then you know that musulmans in palestine aren't saints, either. because SOMEONE is sendings those children to throw those pieces of stone, right?.

Think about it. In Palestine problem there are responsabilities for BOTH sides. And not a few of them go to the musulman side.


 And stop the personal offensive "i've been 4 years in..." "I was 6 years on..." "you paid taxes but I did..."

Thats nothing. Hear me? NOTHING. You in your life are what you proof not what you serve in the military, or the taxes you pay.

I measure the good or bad person you are by the respect you have to other's points of view,political beliefs, religious beliefs, race, sexual tendences...everything.

 Not by the money they have, the taxes they pay or the years they served aboard a cruiser, plane or whatever.

I have known some REALLY nice robbers. I have known a couple of STUPID "honest" bussinesman people.

SO, please, show here that you are good persons and stop, for once at all, this stupid thing.




[This message has been edited by RAM (edited 10-31-2000).]

[Wotan]

Ram its over as far as I'm concerned. One thing though it does not matter who sends the kids ( although if someone believes a arab mother or father doesn't love his children enough to prevent them from being used as cannon fodder then that in and of itself demonstrates the old attitude "they aint like us" ) should the response of a civilized society be to respond with bullets againts those children. I never intended nor do I intend any insult, opinions differ so be it.

[F4UDOA]

Hey Woton,

The plain and simple differance between Israelies and the Arab extremist(notice I say extremist) is that Arabs use their children to carry weapons and bombs into a war zone as human shields as well as targeting Israeli children. Such as bus bombings, bombings in open markets and attacks on sidewalk cafe's.

Due me favor. Next time you spend 6 years under water. Don't bother to use a boat. Feel free to sink to the bottom with the rst of the sea scum.

BTW, I didn't call anyone an anti-semite the entire thread. I really don't care if you like me or my people. Their really is only one thing that matters. Clods and Gods. Gods rise to the top, and clods? Well you know.

F4UDOA

[Maverick]

Pyro please lock, or better yet delete this thread. It is very unpleasant and not worthy of further display. Too many heated words have been written and it is serving no purpose towards the game or drawing anyone together.

Ram, good try brother <S>

Mav

[Snoopi]

How did a thread posting historical information and a few serious questions turn into THIS stupidity ?

I agree delete the thread or lock it.

[ICEWIND]

A Salute to WOTAN


F4UDOA
Yes it is true with certain terms I deformed you and your Jewish faith.


But I still don’t trust you , you deformed the Arabs and Palestinians in your early threads with a friendly smile as if you were the good and nice man, who only wants the best for human race. You put off your mask with  your silly insults that have nothing to do with truth. You and your kind are dangerous, not me or any one else in this thread.


I will not change my mind about the Jews victimizing themselves.

I am half Palestinian and half German.
Terms that you used like there is no such thing as a Palestinian sound very racist and upsetting to me.(That is the reason I could not answer you where I come from, because in your terms I simply do not exist)
Saying that Palestine children are the modern Hitler-Jugend sounds very deforming. A heavily armed Israeli Army is the one shooting at them.

What do you expect from me or the Palestinians, a well armed and trained Military force is fighting against a Civilian Population .160s of Palestinians have been killed and over 7000 thousand injured over the last weeks, and you expect us to be quite and let the Israelis do everything they want with us.
Israelis are besieging us , we are not besieging them. With all these odds against us we still have the courage to fight back.
We are David and you have become Goliath.

With all this going on it makes me sick to here that certain Israelis portray them self’s as the poor victims.

Why can not certain Israelis understand that you are not the victims anymore you have became the perpetrator.


This my last word!

We are not like the Jews, we do not want mercy or pity from the world we want justice!



[This message has been edited by ICEWIND (edited 11-01-2000).]

[F4UDOA]

Finally,

At least no we can speak on equal terms.

ICEWIND, you may be Palistinian but saying that there was an autonomous government with a military in 1948 really isn't true. That part of the world changed hands many times in the prior 50years. The only thing that was constant about the state of Palistine was the picture on the map. The original plan in 1948 did not call for most of what is now Israel to be given to the Jews. Plus there were already many Jewish settlement in the area from years before. It was the attack on the Jews by Egyption backed forces that forced expansion.

As far as Jews victimizing ourselves. Well we didn't kill ourselves in the Holocost. What do you expect people to do? Suck it up and forget about it? Move on? It was 60years ago, many survivors are still here as well as their children.

You are half Palistinian and half German. Why do think you would have been killed by Hitler? The Arab nations were more than willing to help round up Jews and deliver oil to Germany. There was no conflict with the Arabs and Germans. In fact I have read about Vichy French in North Africa along with the Arabs destroying Jewish businesses and homes in the occupation. Don't think this raltionship has been forgotten when policy with Arab nations is discussed.

The Palastinian people complain abou the way their people are treated. 160 dead 7000 injured. Why do they bring there children to riots? Why to the people with weapons stand amoung unarmed people? Why attack a military outpost if you don't want to get shot? These people are not gunned down in their homes. They are rioting. Yesterday an Anti-tank weapon was used as well as machine gun fire. They were killed. I saw an interview on 60minutes in one of the riots. The people were throwing stones and attacking an outpost but the man being interviewd insisted it was a peaceful demonstration? What do people expect? Would the US act any differently? We lost over 200 Marines in Lebanon in 1981 because of our non aggression. And again in Somolia when "They were just kids" attitude was taken.

Terrorism and boarder clashes will never defeat Israel. If it is a homeland you want then it must be negotiated. If it is "justice" you want then I'm afraid allot more people will die on both sides.

F4UDOA

 

[rickod]

Hi Im Jewish by decent and I aint prejudiced I hate you all equally  

[Snoopi]

I still can't see why a Jewish person who was born in the U.S. can see Israel as his homeland.
I also cannot see why a Born American of Palestinian descent would see Palestine as his Homeland.
From what I understand, ALL Jewish Israelis are immigrants since post WW2. (or their offspring)

I'm an athiest so I have no bias/loyalties to either side.
I still think the League of Nations blew it.
The ships from America should have been sent HOME.

Then again maybe it's time that Israel and Palestine gave up some land to make "ChristianLand". After all Jerusalem IS where Christianity started.
(not serious..just pointing out how absurd it is)

Regards,
Snoopi

[rfa]

Yawn

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