Channel 200 and cross country commo should be limited to salutes.

[Booz]

Vludak,

  My point is, all players all playing according to the boundaries of the game. If there's some group of players that thinks they are exempt, they are mistaken. NO ONE has a little corner set aside by Hitech until such time as it happens.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Krusty

SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.


I believe that FT should be left alone, until the end result is too obvious to argue about -- in this case it seems this criteria was met, and the FT base was fair game. [/B]

Well, Krusty, you don't have to capture every single base to get the reset (unless something dramatically changed in the past few months), and forcing that 1/3 to other fields is not going to help in capturing the reset.  It's just going to flood the air around the remaining fields.  And the air will be flooded by people who actually have a clue what they're doing.  Basically, a group of lemmings who evidently have no interest in fighting their way into something (they'd much rather fly fast and high above resistance) are ensuring that they will have a much tougher time with the final push.

It doesn't make much sense.  So, once again, either the griefers are strategic idiots, or just out to ruin people's fun for the sake of ruining it

[Rino]

I think some of you guys need to choose a side..it gets confusing trying
to work out who the strat dweebs and fighter dorks are now

[Raptor]

I went to play AH, and to my amaze... LCA was trying to take FT AGAIN!!
What do I do? Well it was obvious they were trying to take it so I did not rant on 200. I went knights and fought the skilless suicide, bombing dweebs. Soon they were repelled and someone killed their troops, yet bombers kept coming. So I upped to kill ord at 21. I get 3 of the 4 ammo bunks down and then get disconnected. I come back to finish off the last one and what do I see? 11 B24 formations just took off heading SW. Troops are disabled, so they did not intend to capture FT.. just pork it! This time they were heading for the bishop, so I get on 200 and warn them. I up a 190a8 myself to help. You can't really call it spying, seeing how I was knight and saw the horde taking off. But that is absolutely ridiculous to pork FT just to ruin the fun for everyone else:mad:

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Booz
Vludak,

  My point is, all players all playing according to the boundaries of the game. If there's some group of players that thinks they are exempt, they are mistaken. NO ONE has a little corner set aside by Hitech until such time as it happens.

Fair enough, but my point is - people don't HAVE to act like 8th grade jerks and attack a field for no reason other than ruining others' fun when there are plenty of others they can take.

With the high mountains surrounding it, and, thus, impracticality of launching raids against outside bases from it, FT poses no real threat.  It's just a nice little place where guys who don't have that much time to fly are sure to find a quick fix.

There's really no reason to shut it down.

[Krusty]

Vudak, some of us actually like a good fight. Taking undefended fields to me is boring. I don't like vulching. I don't like spawn camping. But I do like a good capture-oriented fight (that is one side attacking, the other defending). If 1/3 the entire team is dicking around in FT while the rest are defending the fields left, I would shut down the FT field in a heartbeat, if it meant I got a better fight "on the front".

That's just me, though. And, like I said, only once that team was totally back against the ropes and needed to get its arse in gear and defend.

[Vudak]

Originally posted by Krusty
Vudak, some of us actually like a good fight. Taking undefended fields to me is boring. I don't like vulching. I don't like spawn camping. But I do like a good capture-oriented fight (that is one side attacking, the other defending). If 1/3 the entire team is dicking around in FT while the rest are defending the fields left, I would shut down the FT field in a heartbeat, if it meant I got a better fight "on the front".

That's just me, though. And, like I said, only once that team was totally back against the ropes and needed to get its arse in gear and defend.

And you know Krusty, I won't doubt you on this.  But I do HIGHLY doubt that the LCA is trying to ensure that they'll have tougher competition at other fields.  From what I've seen, they don't like any...

[Krusty]

Okay, you got me there. My defense is that I was speaking in general on the state of attacking FT bases, and not specifically of the LCA attacking them

[Bronk]

Originally posted by Krusty


SECOND OF ALL: If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields? FT is not the only place to find furballs. It's just a gratuitous instant-gratification area. Most of the memorable fights I've had weren't in FT, but around contested airfields.


The problem is the other bases were defended. They don't want a fight  so they climb into the akakasphere drop all the hangers in FT .  Now ya cant get there to try and defend like elsewhere. See lamers wanting  easy base capture.

So 1) It's not "sew" -- that is what you do with needle and thread. [*END SPELLING NAZI MODE*] and 2) If the Knits were so wrapped up in instant gratification that they let their entire map be captured, they brought the FT loss upon themselves.



Thank you mister anal.  Ya its a shame the map can be reset without taking fighter town...ohh and spoiling mindless fun.


I believe that FT should be left alone, until the end result is too obvious to argue about -- in this case it seems this criteria was met, and the FT base was fair game.


Once again map can be reset without taking FT.  Like I said they just don't want a fight.

Bronk

[Bronk]

Krusty your next avatard is ready.






Bronk


Just ribbing ya a little.

[Delirium]

Originally posted by Krusty
If the Knights, on a 250+ field map, were down to 20 fields, and 1/3 of the tards were screwing around in FT, then that Knit FT field is fair game. Maybe with it gone they might.... oh, I don't know.... Defend their remaining fields?

And that statement is exactly why the furballers feel there is griefing going on.

1. We don't want to play the land grab.

2. If we aren't engaging in the land grab, we are not 'wasting your resources', we are NOT your resources.

3. Don't force us to play in a fashion that ruins the fun for us by destroying a good fight.

4. If you follow rule #3, the furballers won't feel slighted and won't be interested in ruining YOUR fun.

I'd really hate to see arguments like this, it does nothing for the community.

[BluKitty]

LOL  ... grow up

Many people that play this sim don't enjoy the 'game' of it at all.

They play for the ACM and furballs etc.....  maybe droping an egg on something now and then.

As for the game I could care less.  If you try to do a run aginst FT I would tell other countries too.

I've gotten private messages from people telling me about raids ... in FT and elsewhere.   Well guess what.  I told the rest of my "team" whatever it was at the time.... I  told them about the FT raid.  Other raids I ignored the 'spy'.  If you enjoy the 'game' I'm not going to ruin your fun.....but by attacking FT you are a total hypocrite.  

You want to ruin their 'game' and then whine because they ruin your 'game'

[MOSQ]

I'm a dedicated "toolshedder".

If you run a capture mission in FT and you're a Rook, I'll do whatever I can to help stop you. If you capture a base in FT I'll do whatever I can to help the "enemy" recapture it.

One of my most memorable moments in AH came last year when several Rook squads and several Nit squads called a truce in the MA to support each other killing the Bish that had taken all the bases in FT.

I'd do it again in a second to return FT to a 3 country status.

Leave FT and TT alone. Otherwise you're just a lamer griefer.

[cav58d]

Wish I was there for the alliance!  Sounds like fun!

[bozon]

Vudak is absolutely right.
Capturing FT has no strategic value or even a negative strategic value. Those people porking FT or capturing FT cannot be considered strat players. They are either idiots or griefers.

If I see a mission heading to FT I'll give their exact position, alt and numbers on channel 200. I can only lament that killshooter is on or I'd backstab them myself.

Get it through your head - attacking FT has no strategic value! capture something else.

Bozon