Fighter Town vs. Win the War (Question)

[Oobi]

I love Donut for FT, I have no desire to take bases in this game, it is not fun for me. I also have no desire taking up buffs, again not my thing. I like to fight, and if every map had a FT, I would be there. Dying over and over again, as I usually do.

[FiLtH]

Well Laz, they may not knowingly try to help, but just being at the area that others are trying to capture, helps them do so. I think thats where the "wasting resources " thing comes into play for them. Still Im sure there are some that find ruining the FT fun is payback for the FT guys ruining their fun. I dont know.

I just know we as players cant stop either side from doing what they want. And this map only comes around once in a blue moon, and I like it to furball in, and wouldnt want endless fighting on these boards jeopardize it.

[Clifra Jones]

Originally posted by FiLtH
Well Laz, they may not knowingly try to help, but just being at the area that others are trying to capture, helps them do so. I think thats where the "wasting resources " thing comes into play for them. Still Im sure there are some that find ruining the FT fun is payback for the FT guys ruining their fun. I dont know.

I just know we as players cant stop either side from doing what they want. And this map only comes around once in a blue moon, and I like it to furball in, and wouldnt want endless fighting on these boards jeopardize it.

Seriously FiLtH, I am so tired of this "wasted resources" BS. When I flew with the Unforgiven we could take bases with as little as 7 pilots. It ain't brain surgery. If someone is going after a heavily defended field then just ask for help. I'd go there and help knowing that there will be enemy to engage. The problem is most of these guys want us to help them capture undefended fields sectors away from the real action.

On the other hand it is extremely frustrating to help some people capture bases because they are just so darned incompetent at it.

The thing that annoys the fighter jocks are these people that demand we stop having fun and help them. When there are too many of us having fun they go out of their way to grief us. Then they have the unmitigated Gaul to come on these boards and whine that their country mates gave away their griefer mission.

It is unfortunate that there is one side of this debate that can stop the other from doing what they want. Maybe its just for the 15 minutes that the hangers are down but they can do it. The other side has very little options open to them to retaliate.

I too hope that this debate does not cause donut to be taken out of rotation. That would only embolden the griefers to continue their griefing practices.

[Bronk]

Originally posted by FiLtH
I think thats where the "wasting resources " thing comes into play for them.  

The term "wasting resources " is code for ...  If you don't come help us we will kill FT an make you.



Bronk

[lazs2]

No....  "wasted resources" is code for "The horde is too small so I might have to fight with less than 5 k alt advantage and a 8/1 plane advantage".

or... "I don't feel safe unless there are at least a dozen green planes around me for every red one".

lazs
Public Relations Officer for the BK's

[Kweassa]

Those two aspects of the game are not necessarily mutually incompatible.

 The task at hand for HTC (if they will ever admit the MA needs any kind of change), IMO, is how to rearrange the basic system of the MA so the tactical/strategical aspect is naturally arranged to give out BOTH "fighter combat" fun AND "territorial conquest" fun at the same time.

 The trick is to establish a system where limited resources are used in all corners of the map, so a distinct aerial victory and consequential air superiority becomes the key to advancing in territory - instead of the current system where people can instantly establish air superiority by simply "hording" more people than the enemy.

 Indeed quantity has a quality of its own, but once this unlimited, spontaneous 'quantifying' process of pilots and planes becomes limited by a logical strategical-economical model, then people MUST find ways to defeat the enemt at a tactical level in order to achieve advancement at the frontlines. In other words, people must fight with limited resources, and that means not a single plane may be thrown away meaninglessly.

 The problem solving process can only begin after someone admits they have a problem. IMO MA has a problem. The question is, does HTC think the same?

[Elfie]

I am NOT anyone else's resource......unless they pay my subscription fee.

I told that to a Rook the other day and he not so kindly asked me to the DA.....where he proceeded to attempt to turn fight his LGhey-7 vs my Hurricane.

[Chilli]

Originally posted by Edbert1
"Call to duty"?

For the love of God, Apple-Pie and chess-peices...defend our homeland, lest we all be desecrated by a vanquishing enemy!

...oh wait, this is just a game played for fun right?

  Agree!   Is most definitely a game played for fun.  I am neither condemning or defending anyone's choice in how they use their $15 entitlement.

Okay, lets say one man's fun is another man's anguish.  Whatever your preference is, you cannot deny that the moments nearing the final stages of your country's reset is not a position that offers a lot of fun for any kind of player.     <--  been there, done that.  (By the way Doughnut  is my favorite map --- and I spend the majority of my time in FT).   The last thing I want to do is to log on and find the only fields available, deliver me to instant death (everytime I try to spawn I am either vulched or bombed

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Then I suppose that I could change countries but in this game I have too much respect for my countrymen and usually just log off (zero fun )

Never meant for this thread to do anything other than see how many others enjoyed FT as much as I do.  Majority of the responses have been positive, and no one is calling for it to be dropped from rotation:aok

Clifra in regards to my second question (maybe it should be another thread), I believe the days of 7 pilot surgical base captures are gone     unless there are only about 100 total players online.  (would like to be included in one if it does)