Author Topic: Iraq: The Hidden Story (Read 1214 times)

Wolfala · « **on:** June 21, 2006, 04:19:03 PM »

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3519855663545752103

EDIT!!!! Very Raw Content !!!!

Watched - its not Pro War or Pro Western, but very raw and informative on the daily happenings of what is censored out. What is lacking is any detailed analysis of events for why they occur - and goes into the daily tribings of journalists, freelance and otherwise.

Wolf

Yeager · « **Reply #1 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:35:02 PM »

The war going on in iraq is only censored out if you elect not to be informed. Graphic war coverage is freely available even if you dont see it on your local news. Be informed, its up to each of us to gather our own news.

Nilsen · « **Reply #2 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:41:03 PM »

This thread should include a warning.

VERY graphic and horrible content!!!

Wolfala · « **Reply #3 on:** June 21, 2006, 04:56:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Nilsen
This thread should include a warning.

VERY graphic and horrible content!!!

Done

Yeager · « **Reply #4 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:02:30 PM »

I will say this, its absolutely crappy the way those people treat each other. Im not so sure they are worth saving anymore and I fear they could ultimately become a ELT (Extinction Level Threat). Maybe a a few atomic detonations in that neck of the woods would be best for the rest of the planet.

Maverick · « **Reply #5 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:10:28 PM »

I watched the first 10 minutes of it. It was by far more than enough to get the fact that they were running an editorial piece instead of reporting. If you decide to watch it, yes it's graphic, it's also quite slanted and edited in and of itself. They decry editing of journalism yet don't seem to be ashamed that they themselves are doing the same thing. Form your own opinion.

Nilsen · « **Reply #6 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:18:46 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
I watched the first 10 minutes of it. It was by far more than enough to get the fact that they were running an editorial piece instead of reporting. If you decide to watch it, yes it's graphic, it's also quite slanted and edited in and of itself. They decry editing of journalism yet don't seem to be ashamed that they themselves are doing the same thing. Form your own opinion.

are they really editing journalism?

i suppose everyone does if they add any text or comment to a picture. if they dont add anything they still do it becuase they dont explaint the context of the picture shown.

i agree.... form your own opinion, but maybe see more than 10 minutes before you do.

Curval · « **Reply #7 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:22:13 PM »

I'm downloading it now to watch later after I give the kid's a bath, but sight unseen Mav is saying what I am sure I will be confirming later; it is ironic that an admitted JOURNALIST (I'm interested in knowing who he actually gets paid by) is REPORTING the untold story in Iraq.

We'll see though. I'll report back after watching it.

Maverick · « **Reply #8 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:29:36 PM »

Nilsen,

It wasn't the repetition of the scene that brought me to that conclusion. It was the "interview" of the (I assume) british journalist in the arm chair giving the conclusions about the govt. interest in editing the news. his agenda was rather transparent. He was reaching conclusions and then showing scenes to reinforce his opinion. That's the editing I object to. I want a reporter to report, not analyze. I'll reach my own conclusions thank you very much mr / ms journalist.

PS I do have to admit a bias. I've seen some of these folks in action in situations I was involved in to include editing the interview to present a different meaning to the statements recorded.

Nilsen · « **Reply #9 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:38:17 PM »

I think i understand. You are against reporters making documentaries based on how they see things, and not just reporting straight facts and sending them over to the news desk?

or am i missing your point?

If thats what you mean then ok.. They are no longer journalists but documentary makers.

Bruno · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:45:30 PM »

Anyone catch the recent Frontline episode 'Dark Side'?

Much better 'journalism'...

You can watch it online on the Fornt;ine/PBS site once it re-airs on Thursday:

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The Dark Side will be available for viewing online starting Thursday at 5pm et.

Maverick · « **Reply #11 on:** June 21, 2006, 05:59:09 PM »

Pretty close Nilsen. The use of the access to the airwaves gives folks like this unprecedented ability to mold public opinion. If they are providing facts, fine it's reporting. Once they start providing conclusions and analysis it becomed editorializing. That is not "journalism" it's trying to influence rather than inform.

Documentaries can still be unbiased but it still has to be on the basis of reporting what happened not giving their interpretation of what happened. A tall order indeed.

Wolfala · « **Reply #12 on:** June 21, 2006, 06:07:44 PM »

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Originally posted by Bruno
Anyone catch the recent Frontline episode 'Dark Side'?

Much better 'journalism'...

You can watch it online on the Fornt;ine/PBS site once it re-airs on Thursday:

Saw it last night - wanted to find a copy to DL but I don't think anyone has posted it up or rip'd it to divx.

Curval · « **Reply #13 on:** June 21, 2006, 07:25:12 PM »

I haven't quite fully digested it, but it wasn't at all what I expected.

The guy reporting from the Green Zone said it himself...he knew as much about what was going on from where he was in downtown Bagdad as he did in London.

Interesting.

Of course it could be propaganda in its own right.

ramzey · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2006, 12:49:50 AM »

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Originally posted by Yeager
I will say this, its absolutely crappy the way those people treat each other. Im not so sure they are worth saving anymore and I fear they could ultimately become a ELT (Extinction Level Threat). Maybe a a few atomic detonations in that neck of the woods would be best for the rest of the planet.

you mean you like to nuke U.S??????????????????????????????????????