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« on: October 31, 2000, 01:26:00 PM »
Well, this is currently being discssed by the United Nations.  What are your views on this?  Personally, if it was run correctly, I would be 100% for it.  Each country/state/whatever would have a representive elected and hold council in a system much like the ancient Greeks.  The world as a whole, would be united in all their dealings.

Actually, in a poll, it was only American's who were against this sort of thing.

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« Reply #1 on: October 31, 2000, 01:40:00 PM »
Hmm, thought we already had one? Spiritually anyways!  
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« Reply #2 on: October 31, 2000, 01:44:00 PM »
 
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Originally posted by Igloo:
Well, this is currently being discssed by the United Nations.  What are your views on this?  Personally, if it was run correctly, I would be 100% for it.  Each country/state/whatever would have a representive elected and hold council in a system much like the ancient Greeks.  The world as a whole, would be united in all their dealings.

Actually, in a poll, it was only American's who were against this sort of thing.


Ohhhh such an uthopy!

you got to love human race, always dreaming in impossible things...

you REALLY thing that a world government is feasible while:

a)a lot of Arabs want Jews' heads on a stick
b)a lot of Jews want Arabs' heads on a stick
c)half the countries of the world hate the other half
d)there are strong nationalist moves in today's nations (spain the first  )
e)there are a lot of dictatorships that will "love" the idea. to give a <FINGER> to the idea,I mean
f)three quarters of the world are starving while the other quarter is getting richer each day that passes by...
g)...etcetera...many many reasons.

Come on in a future far far far away maybe this is feasible. Just today is impossible.
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« Reply #3 on: October 31, 2000, 01:46:00 PM »
 
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Hmm, thought we already had one? Spiritually anyways!    

LOL! tell the arabs and jews, Rip. they both along with christians, share the same God, and they are killing each others...

and we christians weren't much better just one century ago, btw  

The world is simply not mature for a thing like that...and spiritually the division is still more deep than politically. See, Iraq and Iran...chii islamists vs sunni islamists...In christianism, Catholicism vs Ortodox christianism, in Jewish religion, ortodox vs progressive....

Religion will never work as something to unite human race. Many religions and many atheists for that.



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« Reply #4 on: October 31, 2000, 01:47:00 PM »
Nonsense.
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« Reply #5 on: October 31, 2000, 01:48:00 PM »
Why in the world would anyone want to have one world government???

Not me, I embrace diversity.  

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« Reply #6 on: October 31, 2000, 01:52:00 PM »
 
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Why in the world would anyone want to have one world government???

Not me, I embrace diversity.  


Gunthr...someday, sometime, human race will act as a unity. The time will come when we must go and colonice other planets and (with luck and if there is any phisic way to do it) other solar systems.

That will only be possible with our race together as one. Either we unite or we starve in a little planet with limited resources. Its our destiny as a race, to die or expand. And expansion will be only possible with an union.

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« Reply #7 on: October 31, 2000, 02:01:00 PM »
 
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Hmm, thought we already had one? Spiritually anyways!  

We are working on that one Rip. That is why a one world government will not work today or any day in the near future. We as individuals are not ready. Can you imagine the corruption at the global level? A democracy wouldn't work but a dictatorship with communist style government could. Be careful what you wish for.........

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« Reply #8 on: October 31, 2000, 02:02:00 PM »
Ahh yes, Ram. You remind me that our destiny is the stars. I believe that. But we will be long forgotten, and nobody will remember our names. <S>  

Meanwhile, we will scrabble around on this ball of mud doing all our little things, and hoping that life will be worth living for our children.

Some day though, I want to visit Spain, SPAIN. And meet SPANIARDS. Not some bland denizens of a world government region, all speaking Esperanto or something.

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« Reply #9 on: October 31, 2000, 02:13:00 PM »
 
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Ahh yes, Ram. You remind me that our destiny is the stars. I believe that. But we will be long forgotten, and nobody will remember our names. <S>  


Gunthr

Humm, Gunthr...dont be so sure, maybe is much sooner than you think  . Just see how humanity has advanced since 1800 until today. The technical growth has been geometrical, and each year we pass we reach new levels of knowledge. Remember that new some months ago about molecular computers?...I bet that in 100 years from now the 2100 men will see us as we are seeing now year 1800's people...

Advances in Phisics, and more specifically in Informatic Phisics and Astrophisics are unstoppable for now. I know it well, I am studying phisics  . ANd I am amazed at the rate that the human kind is growing in wisdom.

Mars is only a few years away. Hopefully most people here will see the day when a guy puts a leg on Mars' surface, and a major human colony in the Moon. From then onwards new challenges await for us...more planets to visit...

Reach to the stars...that may be a lot of centuries away or, if some major breakthrough in phisics happens (I'm not very aware of this,and really dont know much about it, but I have heard several times that the "hyperspace" concept can have a lot of truth in it), in much less.

Dreams   I am a dreamer ,too...

If I only could see that day...
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2000, 02:22:00 PM »
Well, this will be a whole can of worms:
1) Who would get to be the 51's state?
2) Which would be the last?
3) Would Texas mind not being the only state the was a independent country anymore?
4) Would Canada come in as one state or would the provinces become states?
5) Who wants Quebec anyway?

Just a few of the problems and I haven't got to Europe yet.

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« Reply #11 on: October 31, 2000, 02:28:00 PM »
OOOOOO..and the biggest problem yet.
 Where would the HQ be???
 Wouldnt be acceptable if it were in the US....being evil and all.
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« Reply #12 on: October 31, 2000, 02:28:00 PM »
 
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Gunthr...someday, sometime, human race will act as a unity. The time will come when we must go and colonice other planets and (with luck and if there is any phisic way to do it) other solar systems.

That will only be possible with our race together as one. Either we unite or we starve in a little planet with limited resources. Its our destiny as a race, to die or expand. And expansion will be only possible with an union.


I want some of what RAM is smoking  

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« Reply #13 on: October 31, 2000, 02:39:00 PM »
LOL Ping!
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« Reply #14 on: October 31, 2000, 02:42:00 PM »
 
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I want some of what RAM is smoking    

Eagler


 

Yeah I know it Eagler. I am a dreamer...but dont  doubt ever for a minute that the moment I am saying will arrive. Its a matter of surviving or dying. And I'd rather place my bets on Human's sense of survability  

and, BTW, I dont smoke  




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