A World Government

[Gunthr]

One thing we are all overlooking is that the bible predicts that when we have ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT is when the ANTI-CHRIST will rize up, and show the mark of the beast, 666.

Another sign that will be a harbinger that the end is near, is that all the missing socks in the whole world will be found in one place. When that happens, you had better drop to your knees and start praying.

The Four Horseman of the Apocolypse will arrive and that will be the end of the world.

I'm sure the devil is heating up a special frying pan for liberals like Igloo and atheists like StSanta. I can hear them sizzeling right now!  

Of course, all those who are conservative will sit at the right hand of God.

 <S>  

Gunthr

[funked]

Over my dead body.

[Snoopi]

I prefer diversity.
MacDonalds at the Pyramids in Giza is too much. (already a reality)

Even if you  eliminated religions people would still find some way to hate or be jealous of each other.
Just look at the "Someone gets cheaper prices" thread and you can see what would happen.
"I hate all BMW drivers"
"I hate all <blank> people"

As for God saving us...IF he/she/it existed..maybe.
Religion is just a belief based on the hope that there is a "purpose".
(and a way to control the masses in ancient times)


RAM:
I hate to tell you.
We are not going to other planets.
Even IF the technology could be developed.. it would be too far into the future to help.

If people can't figure out how to stop "killing" this one we are in trouble.
In reality we don't have to stop doing anything we do, environment wise.
We just have to get the population down to a "sustainable" level.
If we don't do it...the planet will not die off...WE will be cleaned out like a herd of starving elk. (not wiped out...just reduced dratically in number)



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[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by funked:
Over my dead body.

Yep, it would be or you will be in jail as the government had already disarmed you.
It is scary to think some would even think this was a good idea. Seems the have nots are more inclined for this mindset under the impression that it would equal out the balance of things. Just as the left does today in the US. But as the generations roll by, this be an easier sell as ignorance and compliance will grow  

Eagler

[Snoopi]

 

Originally posted by PC:
Well, this will be a whole can of worms:
4) Would Canada come in as one state or would the provinces become states?

PC

Neither...that is why we are still fighting mandatory gun registration.  

Ever see the movie "Red Dawn".
Just make the invaders the U.S.
and the small guerilla groups the Canadians.

We did kick your bellybutton once....
(War of 1812)
Don't make us do it again !!!  

[Gunthr]

Get serious Snoopi.

The Detroit Police Department could cross over the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor and take over your country in 2 days.

And relieve you of your cash at the same time.

 

[LJK Raubvogel]

 

Originally posted by Igloo:
Well, this is currently being discssed by the United Nations.  What are your views on this?  Personally, if it was run correctly, I would be 100% for it.  Each country/state/whatever would have a representive elected and hold council in a system much like the ancient Greeks.  The world as a whole, would be united in all their dealings.

Actually, in a poll, it was only American's who were against this sort of thing.

I see it's time to break out my firearms and make sure they are all well-oiled. Don't worry Funked, I got enough ammo for both of us.  



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LuftJägerKorps

[Dowding]

Not a hope in hell.

Maybe in a thousand years when things have changed a bit - who knows, necessity might dictate a unified government?

Besides, look at the United Kingdom - Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland all wanting de-centralisation (while still wanting a finger in the pie in Westminster).

The UN is a good enough body to allow issues to be discussed between countries, and organisations such as WHO etc do a great job in addressing global issues.

[RAM]

 

Originally posted by Snoopi:
RAM:
I hate to tell you.
We are not going to other planets.
Even IF the technology could be developed.. it would be too far into the future to help.

Technically, we have already done it...if you take the Moon as a planet   .

Solar system colonization will happen not far in the future, regardless of the political situation on the earth. Beyond that, in the thought of colonization of other solar systems...I agree, it is far in the future, and unfeasible without a united Earth government.

And I agree again, that human race is far from being mature to do this possible now. But someday....

 

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[Toad]

Nah, I don't think so.

It was hard enough getting shut of you Euro's the first time.

 

You'll find mine laying next to Funked's.

 


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Toad

Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves.

-William Pitt

[PC]

That's true Snoopi, but it was real close one night(a war earlier).
PC

[Snoopi]

 

Originally posted by Gunthr:
Get serious Snoopi.

The Detroit Police Department could cross over the Ambassador Bridge in Windsor and take over your country in 2 days.

And relieve you of your cash at the same time.

   

they would just get confused with the english/french road signs....lol  

A thought....

If guerilla warfare was so simple to defend against..Vietnam, Afganistan (for russia) would have turned out differently.

Canada is the 2nd largest country in the world. Anyone trying to take it over would have a hard time.

It would be impossible to control such a large area.

The border is so large that we could cross it in small groups and launch attacks without large difficulty.

It would drag on forever and no one would really win.

Besides all you would get is $10 U.S.D.  



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[Snoopi]

 

Originally posted by RAM:
 Technically, we have already done it...if you take the Moon as a planet     .

Solar system colonization will happen not far in the future, regardless of the political situation on the earth. Beyond that, in the thought of colonization of other solar systems...I agree, it is far in the future, and unfeasible without a united Earth government.

And I agree again, that human race is far from being mature to do this possible now. But someday....

   

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Sorry..I meant a planet we could live on without being stuck in "tin cans" because it was too cold..too hot...gravity too high...atmospheric pressure would squish you like a bug.

It is one thing for 100 people to live on Mars. It is quite another thing to make a true self-sustaining colony of any real size.


this solar system yes....
If we can ever modify the Mars environment. (we can't even manage ours)
Outside it.....I don't think so....
even if everyone tried together.

Modern man is now naive enough to think anything is possible.

It current rate..by 2010 half of the current species alive on earth will be dead.
The human population is killing the planet.
(and eventually ourselves along with it)
Most people don't care or are in denial of that fact.
Selfish human nature won't let us change our habits even though we know most of what we have to do. The only other hope is a population drop..by choice..or by "natural causes".

With gene advances bringing the possiblity of
immortality (if you can pay for it), things are that much more scary. Do we not have children anymore ? Do we select who gets to die ?
This old rock has only so much space.


The hope/belief that we can move outside the solar system and find a REAL inhabitable planet is fostered by the same type of hope that a God will come and save us.

If anything the so called "Apocalypse" will be a massive die off of the world population.
The world would in fact be like a "paradise" if the population was under 1 million.
Small groups living separate lives without needing to get along or worry about the environment.

Then again RAM..
I may be, and hope I am, wrong.

Regards,
Snoopi


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[StSanta]

Heh, what the Americans missed during the commie hunt era was a BLINDING reference to a communist future state.  .

Take Star Trek. "Uhm, we have no money,we just do our thing". "Yah we, like, explore and stuff, and everyone owns everything, sort of"

Yah RIGHT  . Won't happen. Simple group dynamics prevent it from happening.

Yoou can even take a very homogenous society and then look for sub groups.

And RAM, Christians are still killing in the name of their religion - take a look at the sectarian violence in Indonesia  .

Hell, if we can't even unite behoind an abstract concept like a god thingie, how are we gonna unite behind something that actually has an impact on our daily lives?

Gunthr, LOL. Sure, I'll be in hell. But Satan's my bud, and I am getting a condo at the Lake Of Lava for my contributions to his cause  .

And, he is the victim of vicious slander from the GOP (GOd Party). In reality, God is mean, and Satan a the good guy. Tough, but unfair.

Nosiree, the essentials of group dynamics and human interaction are the same as they've always been. We'll always manage to create an "us vs them" scenario, even within our own ranks.

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9./JG 54 "Grünherz"

[leonid]

Yeah, not a hope in hell right now.  Too much 'diversity' with one set of peoples considering themselves better than another set of peoples.  Nationalism is still viewed as a necessary thing, but like city-states and kingdoms, nations will probably pass on into history, sooner or later.  While genetic diversity may help in our evolution, social commonality will aid us in allowing us to evolve.