A World Government

[leonid]

 

Originally posted by Gunthr:


One thing we are all overlooking is that the bible predicts that when we have ONE WORLD GOVERNMENT is when the ANTI-CHRIST will rize up, and show the mark of the beast, 666.

Another sign that will be a harbinger that the end is near, is that all the missing socks in the whole world will be found in one place. When that happens, you had better drop to your knees and start praying.

The Four Horseman of the Apocolypse will arrive and that will be the end of the world.

I'm sure the devil is heating up a special frying pan for liberals like Igloo and atheists like StSanta. I can hear them sizzeling right now!  

Of course, all those who are conservative will sit at the right hand of God.

 <S>  

Gunthr

Gunthr, if there really is a god like this, then, StSanta, I'm with you.  Highway to Hell, it is  

[Igloo]

I'm sure it would take many, many years for everything to fall into place.  There would not be lack of diversity anymore than there is now.  Each country could still retain its culture, or have it's cultural slant on things. The USA and Canada would become states of a United Earth, each electing its representitve to sit equally amongst the other representitves from every other nation-state.

Btw, there is no McDonalds at the Giza Pyramids.  There is a KFC though!  

   

 


Gunthr, The Bible also says Eve was made from Adam's rib, and the Noah really gathered every living thing and put it on his ark for exactly 40 days and 40 nights.  I don't think everything in The Bible is meant to be taken literally.  



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[Gunthr]

 <S> Snoopi,

Just kidding, I love Canada.   I also admire the Snowbirds aerobatic team, the beer, the countryside, the hunting and fishing, the friendly people, the theatre and restaurants in the city of Toronto, and the native indians you find near the bush, and so much more...

It would be a crime to have that assimilated into a new one-world-government culture. But I don't think we have to worry about it ...

<S>  
Gunthr

[Dowding]

A recent scientific report said that the first woman was separated from the first man by 40,000 years.

That's quite some contraceptive.  

The bible is a collection of short stories with a central theme. Kinda like a sci-fi anthology. Why should I believe ideas about the universe developed by people who didn't know how rain is created or why the sun sets and rises each day?

Well that's how I see it.

As for colonising the solar system - nice idea. Makes a good sci-fi story (Kim Stanley Robinson's 'Red Mars'). But where are the resources going to come from to do this great deed. No one country could afford to do it. And besides, perhaps we ought to sort out the myriad of problems on this planet before we leave?

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[Gunthr]

<S> Roger that Igloo   I don't take everything in the bible literally either.

I must say though, that human nature will not allow one world government. Think about it. It would entail the present government leaders giving up their power and ability to act unilaterally. We will never see that happen.

But I do hold out the fervent hope that one day soon, you will ease the tensions that struggle within you, and come out, come out, and unfold the conservative wings that are now wrapped about you like a chrysilis.

We are waiting for you....

 

Gunthr

[funked]

I wouldn't mind the US and Canada merging.  As long as Igloo doesn't get to vote.
(just kidding)
 

[Gunthr]

Igloo, I have to admit that I have envisioned an environment in which one world government could arise. Let me explain, and please be patient:

When I was a teenager, I struggled with the concept of "existence" and my place in it. And I struggled with the concept of GOD. I yearned to fully believe in God, yet I firmly believed in science and the entire body of empirical knowledge that had been achieved by scientific methods.

At the time, I found that science and religeon were like oil and water, not mixing very well, and somewhat at odds with each other.

I thought, well what if "God" is actually a
telepathic alien? Or an alien race of telepaths? Maybe this alien(s)
was lonely in the empty universe, and decided to create beings (us) that could eventually become like him/she/it, and eventually be able to commune via telepathy?

How would the alien "gods" steer the evolution of these fledgling beings towards telepathy?
Answer:
By introducing the concept of "GOD" and "Prayer" (a common feature of all religions)

Those who prayed the most efficiently, ie, projected their thoughts the best, and recieved "the word of God" the best, were favored with "answered prayers" or "divine guidence" and presumably would prosper more than other individuals who had less telepathic ability, and would therefore be more likely to pass on their genetic matierial.

Finally, the people of earth would become telepaths, able to commune with the alien "GODS".

Imagine what it would be like! No hate. No fear. No distrust. And yes,...........

One World Government.

 NO THANKS!

Just the dreamings of a kid.... I never actually believed this stuff.

I now believe that God is not understandable by man, but God can be experienced by man.

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[leonid]

 

I now believe that God is not understandable by man, but God can be experienced by man.

Good words, Gunthr  

[mrfish]

it is amusing that we are so primitive as to have divisions like countries anyway. it's like 2 people on a little rock in the middle of the ocean and each drawing a line: "this is mine! you stay away!" each scrapping for the best little crevice or whatever...just ridiculous. maybe one side has shelter and the other has better fishing access. if the island was modeled on our real world, then one side would starve and the other would die of exposure! imagine if you came along in a boat and saw the people on the rock acting so stupid - one side starving and the other sitting there roasting in the sun.....because of an imaginary line. they have limited space and resources, why didnt they just work together? no there is too much ignorance , nationalism and religious intolerance for us to pull it off now but at least the talks have started....

[easymo]

 NO thanks. one world government , means one world leader. Can you imagine clinton as the king of the world. Christ.

[Gunthr]

Ok MrFish, clear the decks. At your expense we are shipping 4 Somalian families to your home in San Fransisco, California so that they may partake in some of your wealth.  

Keep an eye on 'em though, I've heard that they try to light cooking fires on the floors.  

<S>
Gunthr

[mrfish]

who me? Not In My Backyard!!

point taken Gunthr - if there was a resolution tomorrow that said: "there will be no more locks on doors and no more inconvenient keys and bars etc - we are all just going to agree not to steal from each other - agreed?" most people would say - hell yeah! i may not get what that guy has but i dont have to worry about my things anymore so it is entirely logical - if everyone agreed to be respectful of one another and not kill each other we would enjoy the same happy world - pie in the sky dreamin'? you bet man - would never happen and we all know that - sad part is just that though - that we cant simply say"ok no more crime ahhhh see how easy that was?" really the only thing preventing this utopia are our limited little heads. you and 40 gazillion other people would agree but there will always be one that says - ah everyone's doors are unlocked - time to steal! or "i dont like that guy 'booom!'"and ruins it for us - same way with countries - some people are clinging to their power and the testosterone  rush they get from being 'el presidente mucho cohones' and will never see the long term benefit in cooperation - in the mean time i better make room for those pesky anarchist somali's sigghhhh....<logic reversing bastard!>

[Gunthr]

Well, who knows MrFish.....  John Lennon suggested that we imagine the same thing. Who am I to throw a wet towel on it?

<Salute>  
Gunthr

[Snoopi]

 

Originally posted by Gunthr:
<S> Snoopi,

Just kidding, I love Canada.     I also admire the Snowbirds aerobatic team, the beer, the countryside, the hunting and fishing, the friendly people, the theatre and restaurants in the city of Toronto, and the native indians you find near the bush, and so much more...

It would be a crime to have that assimilated into a new one-world-government culture. But I don't think we have to worry about it ...

<S>    
Gunthr

No Problem Gunthr !
I new you were kidding.
So was I.

But it brought to mind thoughts about whether any large military force could take over a very large area. That army would be spread ou t too much. Even with modern forces.

In regards to assimilation...
Ughh ! I agree !
We all talk the same, look the same, eat white bread and bland food for the masses.
We all fly Uber <blank> planes in AH.

Nice thought.......Yuck  

I prefer a world of different people respecting and LOVING other peoples' differences.

IMO:
One government does not have to mean One culture.
Canada has some of the basics of that idea.
A problem is when you get favoritism for a specific group. (perceived or real)
Isolation from other groups is a bad thing too.
These are two of the reasons why the French/English issue has been a problem in Canada.
For the most part multiculturalism is working
in Canada. (just ask my MANY immigrant friends)


From a political standpoint, I don't think there is a system that would work for everyone yet.
The "haves" would resent the "havenots" getting a piece of the "pie".
Just ask about the issue of Canada exporting it's fresh water to other countries.
The response would be similar to:
"They polluted their water..why the hell
should we give any of our water too them ?"

I still say part of the trick would be, to have a HUGE drop in the world population so that there is enough resources to make everyone happy. (with a bonus of less pollution too)

Regards,
Snoopi


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[Igloo]

The Canadian country side? What the... We have a "country side"?  

I don't think God and science are like oil and water at all.  Religion and science, that is different, it is political.  But God and science are one and the same.  The laws of science are manifestations of the Divine Energy otherwise known as God.  My view on it anyways.    

I think that slowly people from all religious establishments will come to realise this and be able to put their personal views on an agreed belief aside and unite as one.  Not right now, maybe not in 10 years, but it definately does not happen by waiting. Remember Gandhi's words, "You must be the change you wish to see in the world".  

Funked, Canada and the US could never merge as one nation.  We have very, very different cultures and way of dealing with things.  There may be americans that share that view, but I don't know one Canadian that would ever want to merge.  We're just as proud to be Canadian as you are to be American, we just don't shout it out and impose our patriotism on other cultures.

We're very different. And besides, that would mean you guys would loose the NFL to the CFL.  Geez, no wonder you want to merge!!  

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