A World Government

[firbal]

really against this. Don't like the idea of some other country that has a differant way of thinking telling us that part of our freedoms are unacceptable. For certain countries, they are considered subjects, not citizens, and have not rights unless they goverment or Soviern thinks they should have it or taken away.

[Rickenbacker]

Um, Snoopi, I wouldn't worry about us killing the planet. We might be able to kill ourselves off, but the planet will survive that, it's already been through worse in the past, and will probably go through worse after we're gone.

We overestimate our own abilities if we think that we can do much to an ecosystem that covers an entire planet, IMO.

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        Rickenbacker (Ricken)

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the Independent Swedish Air Force

[Udie]

 Make me king for a week and I'd solve all our problems. Of course if you don't live in Tx. you'll be in trouble.

 what's the half life of plutonium anyway?

 

Udie

j/k  

[Igloo]

A world government does not mean imposed beliefs on your current culture.  

It would be a senate of world leaders working coopertivly to solve world issues.  Much like the U.N. but on a much larger scale because it would be made up of the actual leaders.

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C/O RCAF 411 Squadron - County of York

"Problems cannot be solved with the same awareness that created them" - Albert Einstein[/i]

[mietla]

Igloo,

What appeals to you in this idea?

[Snoopi]

 

Originally posted by Rickenbacker:
Um, Snoopi, I wouldn't worry about us killing the planet. We might be able to kill ourselves off, but the planet will survive that, it's already been through worse in the past, and will probably go through worse after we're gone.

We overestimate our own abilities if we think that we can do much to an ecosystem that covers an entire planet, IMO.

We CAN kill off many of the current species and change the environment in the short (couple million years) term.
The truth is, if we do enough damage to the planet, WE will die off. Then some other lifeform will, though evolution, be "king".
And they will dig up our bones and wonder what we where and what killed us off.

[Igloo]

Mietla, the unity.

Snoopi, lotsa conservatives here, are you sure you want to get into the evolution thing?  

Thats another reason not to vote for Bush.  He believes that "the jury is still out" on evolution.. I mean...gimme a break.

[This message has been edited by Igloo (edited 11-05-2000).]

[mietla]

 

Originally posted by Igloo:
Mietla, the unity.

A unity of what? Just because you say, "we are all the same, we are united" does not make it so. People are different and that why we have nations to begin with. The armies are maintained to protect this uniqueness among the nations.

The people (and the nations) will not change to conform to a single model. You'd have to make them by using force, and then they have to be kept in check by a murderous totalitarian regime.

Any descent would have to be eradicated as "overthrowing the government".

As we all know, it has already been tried on a smaller scale.

I find this idea to be abhorring in principle, not to mentions a terrifying implementation.

[Igloo]

Who would be asking anyone to conform?

Each "nation" would have a representive elected.  That representive would meet with the representives of other "nations" and the whole would make decisions.  There would not be one leader, that would be dangerous, there would be an assembly of leaders.

[Sparks]

A single Government for the world ?? - just imagine the corporate entertainment suites that would go up for THAT election. Just think of the bribes flying round to support this coporations plans and bids for work etc. Give access to the likes of the oil companies and drug corporations to a single point of influence for decisions on the globe ???!!!! ARE YOU MAD IGLOO ???

We have already seen how individuals greed and hunger for power corrupt our governments - our only hope is to keep the governments small - Remember.....
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely..

Sparks

[mietla]

If this is your vision of the united worlds, we alredy have that. A bunch of guys constantly talking nonsense at the UN, and luckily nothing get done.

[Igloo]

I havn't said I am for it 100%.  I just tossed the idea out there for discussion.

One person would not be able to currupt it because it would be a senate of a good 200 leaders. Much like the ancient Greek system.  

[Sparks]

Igloo

We have a government of over 700 so called elected "good leaders" and there isn't an unifluenced decision taken there. Tell you what - list down all the current cabinet members of the UK government and most influencial senators in the US senate and find out their external business connections. Then keep that list for 5-10 years and see where they all end up after they fall out of government.

[Eagler]

 

Originally posted by Igloo:
Who would be asking anyone to conform?

Each "nation" would have a representive elected.  That representive would meet with the representives of other "nations" and the whole would make decisions.  There would not be one leader, that would be dangerous, there would be an assembly of leaders.

Never work that way. We can't agree now with reps from the states. The only way a world gov would go is military controlled. There would be no democracy, though it would be sold to the masses as one in the beginning. Socialism on it's grandest scale. "New World Order", "United Nations" are terms which should send up warning flags. Any move towards unification, i.e. the Euro, is a move in the wrong direction predicted thousands of years ago. Read "The Book"!

Eagler

 

[Corwin]

At the risk of sounding cynical, why would we want to further globalize political corruption?  Think of it, at least with Sovereign rule you have nice little localized pockets of graft and corruption.  Each of those has inique regional nuances, pecking orders and well-established criminal mores. Should we embrace this World concept,  undoubtably billions of dollars would need to be spent assessing and minimizing the adverse enviromental impact to the habitat of local corrupt politicians.  We would have to insure that these unique aspects of local political corruption would not be lost to their respective socio-economic climes.  Should certain species of corrupt politicians be unable to adapt in a globalized corrupt enviroment we would have to establish "preserves" or "criminal micro-climes" where their way of life would not be challenged and they could be studied in a controlled environment conducive to their prosperity.

Gentlemen we must guard this trend to think of ourselves as one human race each owing the other the benefits of a unified effort to achieve what is best for the whole.  Only by building and buttressing existing barriers and prejudices can we insure the continuance of regional political systems as a means to pursue special interests and hidden agendas to the detriment of their respective mandates.

Save your local politician.  Vote no on globilization of anything today!

Corwin