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Offline Sandman

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« Reply #30 on: June 26, 2006, 01:16:42 AM »
I've experienced a dozen or so. It never gets old.
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« Reply #31 on: June 26, 2006, 01:20:46 AM »
Flying the diamond with the blue's or t-birds is without a doubt 10x's harder than flying a 1 ship demo...Hands down without question in my opinion...

I think its awesome to see bombers and cargo planes fly at airshows...B-1 is the greatest demo ever...Ofcourse fluff'n al qaeda had to mess with us, and its nearly impossible to find a b-1 demo in the US since the start of the war on terrorism...I believe theres only 50 or so operational, and most are deployed fighting the war....  I think I like the C-5 demo slightly better than the C-17...C-5 is just soooooooooooo big!  I also like the engine noise...big fans =)....

I am yet to see one but I hear a "factory demo" is like no other...Especially the F-16s...Apparantly they do not have to adhere to AF mininums...if anyone has seen a factory demo please comment on it, i'd love to hear what really stood out
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« Reply #32 on: June 26, 2006, 01:24:03 AM »
If you like engine noise, you should hear an F-111 take off. You can *feel* it from a mile away, literally.
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« Reply #33 on: June 26, 2006, 01:41:30 AM »
I think the noisest aircraft I've heard on takeoff was an A-6. Things just rattled everything. On the Vinson, the CIC was just inboard and directly beneath Cat 3. Damn A-6s used to shake the dust loose.

On the other hand, standing close to an F-14 while it's in full AB on the cat is a really odd feeling. You can feel your internal organs vibrate. It's just bizarre.
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« Reply #34 on: June 26, 2006, 02:33:19 AM »
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On the other hand, standing close to an F-14 while it's in full AB on the cat is a really odd feeling. You can feel your internal organs vibrate. It's just bizarre.


I imagine thats probably what its like when an F-111 takes off also, I just wasnt as close to them as you were. I only saw the F-111's at Nellis AFB while there for Red Flag exercises. Our parking spots on the flight line were about a mile or so from the end of the runway.

The F-111's were loud enough on take off a mile away that I put on ear protection.
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« Reply #35 on: June 26, 2006, 03:15:02 AM »
Quite possibly the noisiest aircraft ever built... MD 88B supersonic propeller development a/c: legend had it you could hear it during run-up from 20 miles away.
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« Reply #36 on: June 26, 2006, 06:26:29 AM »
nice site, thanks for posting that Octavius. the only sonic boom pass I've experienced was while underweigh north of rosie roads PR in the caribbean while performing escort duties for the sara or the rosie I don't recall which. the fly by was performed by a brace of F14As from VF84.  I had just come off of 0400-0800 watch on the electrical switchboard in Bravo 4 and went out to the fantail for a smoke and a cup of joe before turning to.  I was sitting on a cap when in the horizon I see two specks growing ever larger.  they passed about a 100 meters just astern and a second later BOOM.  I had my hearing protection still around my neck.  when I identified them I quickly put them on.  talk about rocking your world.  what I would give today to have had a good camera ready.
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« Reply #37 on: June 26, 2006, 06:27:55 AM »
Holden, I think they performed some similar tests with a modified F-84 as well.
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« Reply #38 on: June 26, 2006, 06:35:13 AM »
fun fact:

"The US Congress is poised to lift a ban of almost nine years on export sales of the F-22A Raptor aircraft following a vote to lift the ban in the US House of Representatives on 20 June."

http://www.janes.com/defence/air_forces/news/jdw/jdw060626_1_n.shtml
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« Reply #39 on: June 26, 2006, 06:49:52 AM »
Nilsen

Oh teh noes...

:(

Why can't they lift the ban on enforcing immigration and legal employment laws instead?
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« Reply #40 on: June 26, 2006, 07:04:44 AM »
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Nilsen

Oh teh noes...

:(

Why can't they lift the ban on enforcing immigration and legal employment laws instead?


Because "secretly" they want cheap labour for their businesses and the money from exports of the f22 (they prolly own shares in LM)


was that :noid  enough?

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« Reply #41 on: June 26, 2006, 07:34:32 AM »
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Not arguing that at all. The military just doesn't use the newest and most expensive aircraft for demonstration teams. It's too dangerous.
Ummmm... yes the do. They have to. They don't go 2 years being too afraid to test the capabilities of the aircraft out. They have to test them before they're even delivered. And I guarantee virtually every senator is going to want to see what all the money is for. DOH! Just saw "teams". I believe I've said solo from the start. Just what were you arguing about?

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I imagine thats probably what its like when an F-111 takes off also, I just wasnt as close to them as you were. I only saw the F-111's at Nellis AFB while there for Red Flag exercises. Our parking spots on the flight line were about a mile or so from the end of the runway.

The F-111's were loud enough on take off a mile away that I put on ear protection.
I worked 3 years in a shack about 1/4 mile from EOR at Mt. Home AFB when they had F-111A aircraft. They were pretty loud, but then so where the F-4s. The planes really beat them for noise were the bombers (B1, B-52) and the KC-135 which was, hands down, the loudest aircraft in the arsenal. They had just started replacing the water injected engines when I got out of the service that made a drastic improvement in it's noise level. The older stuff was all louder too. We'd get some of the old fighters/bombers in once in a while.
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« Reply #42 on: June 26, 2006, 07:41:55 AM »
P.S. I don't mean to imply one type of flying is more/less dangerous. The Blue Angels and T-Birds shows are all about formation flying. They show off the team, not the aircraft. The solo demonstrations are about showing off the aircraft. They are, in my oppinion, more exciting as a result. I've been to more than a few airshows where the crowd started leaving midway through the "grand finale" t-birds or blue angels show. The harrier, F-15 and stunt plane demo put them to shame.
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« Reply #43 on: June 26, 2006, 02:23:57 PM »
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I worked 3 years in a shack about 1/4 mile from EOR at Mt. Home AFB when they had F-111A aircraft. They were pretty loud, but then so where the F-4s. The planes really beat them for noise were the bombers (B1, B-52) and the KC-135 which was, hands down, the loudest aircraft in the arsenal. They had just started replacing the water injected engines when I got out of the service that made a drastic improvement in it's noise level. The older stuff was all louder too. We'd get some of the old fighters/bombers in once in a while.


I worked F-4E's at Seymour Johnson AFB in NC for almost 2 years. During that time I was on EOR (End of Runway) duties several times. While they were loud, they weren't nearly as loud as the F-111's. You  couldnt *feel* the sound from the Phantoms like you could with the F-111's.

In addition to the 3 squadrons of Phantoms assigned to the base, we also had a squadron of B-52's and another of KC-135 tankers. The bombers and tankers were assigned alert duty. There were 4 B-52's loaded with live nukes and 4 tankers on alert 24/7/365. None of the bombers or tankers flew very often so I dont really recall their noise levels and I certainly didnt get the same impression of *feeling* the sound like I did with the F-111's. If I had, I'm sure I would recall that.

Those F-111's taking off is something I still remember quite vividly and I doubt I will ever be able to forget it.

Another thing I will never forget is watching Phantoms taking off at Elemendorf AFB in afterburner. They would literally set the runway on fire with their angled exhaust. Well, they set the de-icing chemicals on the runway on fire but the impression was that the runway itself was on fire. During the low light conditions of a 9am takeoff in the middle of an Alaskan winter, watching the *runway burn* was quite an impressive sight. :)
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« Reply #44 on: June 26, 2006, 02:31:21 PM »
I'll be fixing those purty F-22s in a few months time. Im setting a goal for myself to work on the ground crew of the Blue Angels.
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