Author Topic: Closing the minds of American youth  (Read 749 times)

Offline StSanta

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« Reply #15 on: February 14, 2001, 11:46:00 PM »
There's a difference between science and philosophy, and religious stuff is the latter, at best.
Creationism is pseudo-science. Even religious biologists realise the non science approach they adopt; having a result and trying to fix the variables to fit.
And, evolution is a theory and a fact. Now, a scientific theory is not your everyday Joe Schmoe theory - for something to be a theory, it has to be very well supported, been through peer review and so forth. Evolution is a theory to the same extent that we have the theory of gravity. Simply put, evolution in change in allele frequency in a population over time. Allele's are little thingies inside our genes.
What most dispute about evolution is macro evolution, or the creation of entirely new species based on existing ones. There's strong scientific evidence supporting it, and i can dig up a few links should it be needed.
What's the alternative? Divine intervention? The Christian creation myth suggests that a deity placed ALL species on the planet at the same time - thus, humans walked around at the same time as dinosaurs, as did cro magnon man and newer breeds of dogs. of course, this would go against all scientific evidence we have, yet we offer this as an alternative to evolution.
Fury, we ram math and physics down the throats of young ones as well, well knowing out understanding of these subjects isn't perfect. It's pretty good and consistant though.
It might not be the true and only way. But right now, it's a science class, and it *is* the scientific way.
Imagine teaching about ALL creation myths in a science class. they're all equally validm sice they all lack any real scientific foundation, so we'd have to go through them all, including variants.
Evolution requiring faith? Yes, to the same extent that nuclear science requires faith, or computer programming. For those that do not understand it, it works by FM - F*cking Magic. most people do not realize how modern computers are built; am  I to believe we can take electrical signals in the 0-5 volt range, convert to virtual 0's and 1's and then get to shoot each other down through transmitting 0's and 1's through fiberoptic cables? YEAH RIGHT.

In other words, for one who has spent time studying it, it requires less and less "faith", if you will.

Off I go, computer architecture class (no an amusing one, instructionsset and microlanguage today (UGH).

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« Reply #16 on: February 15, 2001, 02:55:00 AM »
the earth is a small dishes put on 4 elephant crossing the univers on a geant tortue  

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« Reply #17 on: February 15, 2001, 03:28:00 AM »
For one thing I would (if I had a kid) rather have them learn evolution as the probabal as apposed to the creation STORY tha appears in the bible (which is for the most part a FICTIONAL book)  if a kid grows up pointing at things and saying "look what god did" he is gonna be weirded out on, plus there is INFINATLY more data supporting Darwin than "god".  I dont really care either way.  Say someone has learned the creation thing and accepted it as THE way.

you ask them "I wonder why that moth matches the color of that tree?"  he says "cause thats gods will"  ... then the other kid says "well I imagine at one point they were all different colors but the ones that match the color of the trees could hide better and thus that trate was more likeley to be carried on because they were less likley to be eaten by predators"

personally "it was gods way" just wont cut?

>Why exactly do you think you deserve this job son?

>> I feel its gods way.

>......SECURITY!


Quity crying about the pubic education, if it bothers ya so much pull yer kid outta school, give him a bible, and let him/her grow up stupid.

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« Reply #18 on: February 15, 2001, 08:31:00 AM »
To quote A. Eldritch on the topic of why evolution isn't taught in some US schools:

"Someone has to flip burgers"

 

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« Reply #19 on: February 15, 2001, 08:54:00 AM »
 
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To quote A. Eldritch on the topic of why evolution isn't taught in some US schools:
"Someone has to flip burgers"

They can get the beef and put it on the burner, spit on it and put it in the bun...ITS GODS WILL