Here's a Real Shocker!

[Hangtime]

Originally posted by rpm
Back and forth, yeah right. The fat kid has just sat on your teeter totter and he ain't getting up for a long time.

ROFL..

and to continue the metaphor, they've installed a FREE (paid for by the philanthropies) big mac bucket brigade from the local macdonalds to the fat kid.. just so he doesn't starve to death sittin there.

[Shuckins]

Anybody remember the district that was redrawn to create a black majority which could elect it's "own" representative.  It was the width of a highway and the row of houses on both sides.

Anyone remember where that was?

How many of you libs expressed outrage over the idiocy of that?

Congressional districts are routinely redrawn every ten years...and every ten years the party in the majority of each state does everything legal, and often illegal, to marginalize the voters of the opposition party.

Nothing new about that, and you well know it.  I strongly suspect that your outrage is a mere affectation, which will be put back into the closet when your party is back in power.

[Ripsnort]

Shaw vs. Reno:

"Classifications of citizens based solely on race are by their nature odious to a free people whose institutions are founded upon the doctrine of equality, because they threaten to stigmatize persons by reason of their membership in a racial group and to incite racial hostility."

'Nuff said.

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Sikboy
Does this mean our Democrats are going back to New Mexico? If so, the IQ of both states is likely to go up.

-Sik

It`s a low outiside slow ball.
He swings.
He hits.
It`s a homerun.  


Didn`t know you were from Mcinkneeknee. Small world.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Jackal1


Didn`t know you were from Mcinkneeknee. Small world.

I don't think anyone is actually "from" McKinney. We all just moved here in the last 5 years. We topped 100,000 last year, and the growth keeps on coming. I've got to move out of here, but the City's just going to follow me wherever I go. Sigh.

-Sik

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Sikboy
I don't think anyone is actually "from" McKinney. We all just moved here in the last 5 years. We topped 100,000 last year, and the growth keeps on coming. I've got to move out of here, but the City's just going to follow me wherever I go. Sigh.

-Sik

LOL I hear ya.
Just move down here to Tawakoni with the rest uf us.
We still have some that try to bring city ways here with them, but we just use em for cut bait.

[Sikboy]

Originally posted by Jackal1
LOL I hear ya.
Just move down here to Tawakoni with the rest uf us.
We still have some that try to bring city ways here with them, but we just use em for cut bait.

How funny, I was just looking at some houses out there. I'll probably end up between McKinney and Greenville though, so that I can work both Colling and Hunt counties. I need to think about how long it takes to get to the Collin County District court from Tawakoni. You on the East side or the west side?

-Sik

[Jackal1]

Originally posted by Sikboy
How funny, I was just looking at some houses out there. I'll probably end up between McKinney and Greenville though, so that I can work both Colling and Hunt counties. I need to think about how long it takes to get to the Collin County District court from Tawakoni. You on the East side or the west side?

-Sik

More like the south side ...or SW.
Duck Cove.
Sorry for the hijack gents.

[Red Tail 444]

Originally posted by Yeager
h....Its like tidal pools man, be glad for the moon

Um...tidal pools don't shift...

[RedTop]

Originally posted by Yeager
Im not too "up" on Texas politics but the feeling I get is that the politics in Texas are unlike the politics of just about any other state....that is to say, unconventional.

Best regards, keep on voting.

There not unconventional at all. Its backdoor late night B.C. every session. and I know. I see it from the front lines so to speak. Every state does it the same and the the Federal government does it to an art.

[Krusher]

After the 1990 census, the Democrats controlled both houses of the Texas legislature. Texas was trending heavily Republican but that didn't stop  the Democrats from redrawing district lines to inrease their hold on the legislture by 21 seats. So when the evillllll republicans did the same thing its suddenly the biggest "shocker" in legislative history.

Forgive me if I laugh out loud at your distress.




A fellow Texan

[weaselsan]

Originally posted by Yeager
as long as they uphold the 2nd amendment as an individual right I dont really worry about the other stuff.

Things will tilt back towards the liberals, then after a time, things will shift back.
On and on it goes, back and fourth....Its like tidal pools man, be glad for the moon

It really doesn't matter if the White House, House and Senate all were in liberal control...the only way they can legislate is through the courts. One more Justice and their history for many years.

[Toad]

Originally posted by Krusher
After the 1990 census, the Democrats controlled both houses of the Texas legislature. Texas was trending heavily Republican but that didn't stop  the Democrats from redrawing district lines to inrease their hold on the legislture by 21 seats. So when the evillllll republicans did the same thing its suddenly the biggest "shocker" in legislative history.

Forgive me if I laugh out loud at your distress.




A fellow Texan

From Slate:

Justice Kennedy, the focus of all attention today, says: "You tell us a partisan gerrymander is bad. But then you tell us you can't correct it when it happens." He says that absent the Republican redistricting plan, the old Democratic gerrymander from 1990 is "frozen." Justice Stephen Breyer cites "factual evidence" in the record that the pre-existing Democrat-driven gerrymander was "much worse."

That from Breyer.

Breyer

Which one of you folks outraged at the "Republican Gerrymander" will now tell me to ignore Breyer, being that he is such a right-wing conservative tool of the Republicans?

[rpm]

Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form is bad. Why cant they just give 4 county districts and be done with it?

Instead we get insane districts like these:

The 10th runs from Austin to Houston! The freaking 15th & 25th are 400 miles long! How about the 19th? How many oxycontin did they take to come up with that? The thing looks like Tetris on acid.

[Krusher]

Originally posted by rpm
Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form is bad. Why cant they just give 4 county districts and be done with it?

Instead we get insane districts like these:
 

I agree its BS, but its long establised BS. The fact that it has been done this way for decades dosn't make it any more apealing.


Back to your statement "The SCOTUS has become a Republican tool."


December 5, 1995, Argued
June 13, 1996, Decided

DECISION: Each of three congressional districts established, under Texas legislature's redistricting plan, with African-American or Hispanic majority held to violate Federal Constitution's Fourteenth Amendment as racial gerrymander.

STEVENS, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which GINSBURG and BREYER, JJ., joined, post, p. 1003. SOUTER, J., filed a dissenting opinion, in which GINSBURG and BREYER, JJ., joined, post, p. 1045.

----------2006-----------------------------------------------------
Liberal Justices John Paul Stevens and Stephen Breyer voted to strike down the entire plan. Stevens said it cannot survive constitutional scrutiny because the sole motivation was a desire to minimize the strength of Texas Democrats.


In 1996 they (Stevens and Breyer) held one opinion, in 2006 they flipped. On the other side of that coin the conservative side did the same thing, before it was bad, now its fine.  

Gerymandering in some form or fashion is not going away.

welcome to the 1960's