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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2006, 11:12:09 AM »
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Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form is bad. Why cant they just give 4 county districts and be done with it?

 


But you're fine with leaving the 1990 Democratic gerrymander as it is?

After Bryer says the pre-existing Democrat-driven gerrymander was "much worse"?

Maybe all Republican gerrymanders should be revised but Democratic ones will just have to stay the way they are?
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2006, 11:31:05 AM »
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Gerrymandering in any way, shape or form is bad. Why cant they just give 4 county districts and be done with it?
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2006, 11:44:41 AM »
Because it isn't based on counties? It's based on census population.

Should a county with a million residents get the same representation as a county with 100k residents?
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2006, 11:46:00 AM »
Actually the 19th looks like it had to be done by a Democrat, it looks like the eastern slice of Massachussetts, including Cape Cod...

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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2006, 12:02:23 PM »
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Should a county with a million residents get the same representation as a county with 100k residents?


Senatorial representation isn't based upon population.

I'll admit... it's been a long time since I was in a government class, but IIRC the Constitution pretty much left congressional districting up to the states. If a state chooses to apportion the districts based upon population, they can but they don't necessarily have to.

Of course, I might be wrong.
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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2006, 12:16:02 PM »
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But you're fine with leaving the 1990 Democratic gerrymander as it is?

After Bryer says the pre-existing Democrat-driven gerrymander was "much worse"?

Maybe all Republican gerrymanders should be revised but Democratic ones will just have to stay the way they are?
I never said I was fine with leaving the '90 plan as is. I don't like THIS plan, especially since it just opened the floodgates for every state to do the same thing. Put up a more logical plan and I'll back it. Let the voters decide their represenative, not the other way around.
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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2006, 12:46:47 PM »
Each state gets two senators regardless. The population of a state deems how many representatives it gets to send to the house of reperesentatives, the districts are drawn along population lines, so one district with an large urban (usually liberal) population doesn't skew the voting results one way or another when the suburban population (usually conservative) wanted different representation.

 I don't really care what Texas does in it's own borders, but I recall hearing the supreme court of the United States only up-held part of the redistricting & had said there were some that would have to be changed back along the previous lines, but maybe I didn't catch the whole story.

 As far as the courts being a tool of the republicans...I don't see where the Gitmo ruling plays into that since President Bush is the lead republican & wants the Gitmo military tribunals and I don't see where any of the liberals on here mention that little SCOTUS ruling...it sort of sinks the whole "the supreme court is a republican tool" arguement.

 The supreme court is far too liberal & does not represent the feelings of the average U.S. citizen, the majority of which are still rather conservative (as shown by natl. election voting trends). I myself would like to see lifetime appointments for supreme court justices ended, but I fear that would play right into the hands of the treasonous liberals in the U.S. urban areas.

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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2006, 01:08:23 PM »
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 The supreme court is far too liberal & does not represent the feelings of the average U.S. citizen, the majority of which are still rather conservative (as shown by natl. election voting trends). I myself would like to see lifetime appointments for supreme court justices ended, but I fear that would play right into the hands of the treasonous liberals in the U.S. urban areas.


What absolute horse****.
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