Author Topic: Should of just killed him. (Read 1403 times)

StSanta · « **Reply #45 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:24:46 PM »

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Originally posted by dmf
I heard about that briefly on the news, I have no desire to kill him, I have a better idea, since everybody that comes to the US is subject to us law, let him be subject to the law of where he is. I hear that in muslim countries they cut off a hand for stealing, Lets see what they'll cut off of him for rape and murder. If he's found guilty.

Are you in favour of Sharia law? I may be misreading your post but I get the idea that you find the punishment according to Sharia law more compelling than what we have in the West.

1996-MAR: Afghanistan: Some strict interpretations of Islamic law calls for the death penalty for any woman found in the company of a man other than a close family member. Sexual activity is assumed to have happened. A woman, Jamila, was found guilty of trying to leave the country with such a man. She was caught and stoned to death on 1996-MAR-28.

If this is implemented in the West, my palm-sized rock company is going to make a fortune.

Maverick · « **Reply #46 on:** July 03, 2006, 11:34:45 PM »

Just put him down, no fan fare just get it done and be rid of him.

dmf · « **Reply #47 on:** July 04, 2006, 01:45:32 AM »

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Originally posted by StSanta
Just f****n shoot the guy. What's with the torture thing? Clorox treatment? I understand you want to protect your young and I understand the basic premise that mothers protecting their young will go to great lengths to do so. Is he any deader if you use Clorox instead of a double tap to the head? Is he less of a threat then?

As far as deterrent - if death is not a deterrent, torture ain't gonna be either. Most of these crimes are done outta a sick twisted overwhelming sexual desire. There's nothing rational about it. It won't work.

If we don't want to be so soft and don't mind an innocent getting whacked by the state every now and then, then two bullets to the head is the solution.

Forget all this primal bull*****. It's a primal, immediate reaction. People who're showing that their primal, emotional instincts override their rational mind are generally people I try to avoid. Child molesters are just like this.

Controlling and channeling feelings is essential to functioning in modern society.

Do what is necessary, then think no more of it.

A double tap to the head might work, but I'd like to watch him squirm just a little before he drops.Call me a sadistic Bit** if you want to, but when I hear about people hurting children thats just how mad I get. Oh by the way how much does your 2 taps to the head cost? I can get bleech for 88cents

dmf · « **Reply #48 on:** July 04, 2006, 01:53:34 AM »

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Originally posted by StSanta
Are you in favour of Sharia law? I may be misreading your post but I get the idea that you find the punishment according to Sharia law more compelling than what we have in the West.

1996-MAR: Afghanistan: Some strict interpretations of Islamic law calls for the death penalty for any woman found in the company of a man other than a close family member. Sexual activity is assumed to have happened. A woman, Jamila, was found guilty of trying to leave the country with such a man. She was caught and stoned to death on 1996-MAR-28.

If this is implemented in the West, my palm-sized rock company is going to make a fortune.

I don't favor Sharia law, but you have to admit it is a good crime deterent. I do however like their dui law. one time driveing drunk and you'll never do it again. But if sombody from another country comits a crime in this country they fall under our laws don't they? So why not have the same thing apply to our people that go over there?
And if their law is ever implemented here I want a job at your rock company. I need the money.

lazs2 · « **Reply #49 on:** July 04, 2006, 09:48:49 AM »

I would say put him to sleep and wish him better luck in the next life.

I could see a parent or person affected directly wanting to beat him to death.. Probly do it myself in the heat of the thing...but...

I think that after we put that guy to sleep we would need to round up the people who wanted to torture him and put them to sleep. I am not comfortable being around people who think torture is justified.

lazs

Brenjen · « **Reply #50 on:** July 04, 2006, 11:46:53 AM »

Anyone who thinks being easy on these animals by carrying on in the same manner we've been carrying on, watching it get worse & worse with no let up in sight are, in my eyes, no better than me for wanting to show them a penalty that would make their skin crawl off their body & hide.

All of you who can look at the smiling faces of those children, go ahead & bring their pictures up, stare into their eyes & let your mind bring them back to life, hear there little innocent voices on their birthdays, happy, joyous & then let your mind play the horrible snuff porno that is the reality of how they died...suffering.

If you can visualize that & not see the failure of "peacefully going to sleep behind closed doors" as a punishment, then there is no hope for you. I am quite certain very few of you here would like me very much in person, I am a hard, brutal man when I am struck by the fight or flight instinct. In my mind there isn't enough violence to heap on them before they died.

Today is my daughters birthday; & I couldn't run the "what if" scenario in my mind without feeling the need to vommit. Do that with one of your loved ones & feel the surge in your body & tell me true; the only reason you can't bear to think about torturing the undefendably guilty is because you simply do not know the victims & don't have a personal issue with their crimes.

I have an issue with them, I will always have an issue with them.

lazs2 · « **Reply #51 on:** July 04, 2006, 12:10:48 PM »

I have family too... a 4 year old grand daughter...

Like I said.. I could see someone losing it and beating the guy to death or shooting him.... I could pull the handle to have him put down.

I am not interested in punishishing him so much as I am getting him out of the whole life deal... I don't want him out amung the rest of us to harm even more people.... especialy children.

The act of torture is a whole nuther thing.

I do not want a person who is capable of it for "punishment" out amung the real people either..

I would pull the plug on a self rigthtious torturer just as easily. they shouldn't be out amung decent people. they are sick and probly can't be cured any more than the child molester.

To be fair.... most of the people here who claim they could torture another human for no other reason than that of punishment..... they are kidding themselves. I believe that they are more human than they give themselves credit for.

It takes a special person to torture another human being.

lazs

Morpheus · « **Reply #52 on:** July 04, 2006, 01:43:53 PM »

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Originally posted by StSanta
Just f****n shoot the guy. What's with the torture thing? Clorox treatment? I understand you want to protect your young and I understand the basic premise that mothers protecting their young will go to great lengths to do so. Is he any deader if you use Clorox instead of a double tap to the head? Is he less of a threat then?

So he could experience just a fraction of the pain that his victimes will feel throughout the rest of their lives. I have a very close family member who was raped when she was just 14 or 15 years old. DONT tell me I wouldn't ejoy just a little time alone with him.

A bullet is too good, too fast, and not painful enough.

dmf · « **Reply #53 on:** July 04, 2006, 02:01:26 PM »

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Originally posted by lazs2
It takes a special person to torture another human being.

lazs

No it doesn't, all it takes is enough anger, you might regret doing it later, but at the time I think anybody could do it

BGBMAW · « **Reply #54 on:** July 04, 2006, 02:14:25 PM »

is hard-forced labor torture?

it knd of is..but not your typical..peel finger nails off stuff

HARD FORCED LABOR>.your rest of your life...

aching sore bones..joints..SO you can think about what you did ..everyday of your life...

Who knows whats on the other side..meaning death.....Let them "marinate" in forced labor here first.

Brenjen · « **Reply #55 on:** July 04, 2006, 02:42:59 PM »

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Originally posted by BGBMAW
is hard-forced labor torture?

it knd of is..but not your typical..peel finger nails off stuff

HARD FORCED LABOR>.your rest of your life...

aching sore bones..joints..SO you can think about what you did ..everyday of your life...

Who knows whats on the other side..meaning death.....Let them "marinate" in forced labor here first.

I agree with that; if they deny their crimes. There is always that shadow of a doubt if they deny it. Anyone denying their guilt, even if found to be guilty by a court, should have hard labor; that way at least they might still be alive if they were found out to be truly innocent later on.

I couldn't take someones life who swore their innocence from start to finish (& I don't mean innocent because of a legal loophole, I mean did not do it at all innocent) even if a court gave them death & it was my job to do it.

I'm very human Lazs, but I suppose I'm also a very special person. Because I have absolutely zero feeling for the john coueys of this world & could do darn near anything to them but eat their flesh with a smile on my face.

Maverick · « **Reply #56 on:** July 04, 2006, 03:02:53 PM »

This should not be about a concept of "justice". There is nothing you can do that would really "balance the books" for the rape, killing and or torture of an innocent. This is about protecting society so that this person (creature?) never ever gets to hurt another innocent again. Period. Just put it down and get on with life. There is more to life than holding this "thing" in contempt. Remove it from the presence of others on the planet and move on.

Brenjen · « **Reply #57 on:** July 04, 2006, 03:10:25 PM »

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Originally posted by Maverick
This should not be about a concept of "justice".

Your right on the money there, it's about prevention! And going to sleep peacefully behind closed doors isn't scaring them enough to curb this trend (if it's scaring them at all). They think they'll win on appeal or get off on a loophole or live out their days waiting for the appeals process to run it's course & then file a motion thirty years later that their too old & sick to be executed.

The sad thing is, they're right; that's exactly what happens the majority of the time.

lazs2 · « **Reply #58 on:** July 05, 2006, 09:54:47 AM »

dmf... I would submit that you have never even came close to really torturing another human being.

You can't torture someone on the spur of the moment and in anger. It takes a concerted effort and hours or days of sadism....Sane people don't do that.

Dissagree? when was the last time you heard of a parent or sane person locking a bad guy in the basement and torturing him for hours or days or weeks? Not gonna happen.

sure... you may sustain rage long enough to beat the guy to death or gut shoot em but you can't think of tortures while the rage is on.... if you plan out the tortures ahead of time you are probly a nut job or just very angry... if you ever get even close to carrying out the fantasy... you are a psycho that needs to be put down too.

Hard labor? fine for lesser crimes where the risk of the guy getting out is not a real big deal... Not good enough for the sociopaths and the child molesters.... Can't take the chance that they would do it again.. so long as they draw a breath they are a danger to the rest of us. They need to be put down.

The torturers need to be put down too.

lazs